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"the necklass will be dramatic"
« on: September 05, 2008, 08:19:53 AM »
...a quote from the Welsh CEO of Sony, in an interview with BBC Business Daily (on the 3rd Sept podcast).

The interviewer asked him how Sony will do. I've never heard any CEO talk so confidently before. He said something along the lines of, "if you're Sharp, if you're Samsung, trying to compete against us in America, good luck". He continues by describing the market share coverage that Sony has, "...we are everywhere", in the movies, electronics, music, etc. He also says "...we are the most trusted brand in America", and backs this up by saying how Sony is 'everywhere'.

The necklass quote comes in about here, where he goes on to describe how if Sony links everything up, 'all the pearls' their telephony, electronics, music and such, then they'll create a necklass, and 'the necklass will be dramatic'. He says, I think I heard this right, 90% of Sony's products will be link by 2010. Already last year, I saw how Sony was promoting the then new A700 with the Bravia TV, and how you can show your pictures off of the camera on to the TV and print straight out on some little portable printer at the same time.

So, I'm expecting the A500 and A800, jokes aside, will include internet access to allow you to download mp3s. Or perhaps some compatibility with the PlayStation. It's your imagination, go for it.
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 11:50:37 AM »
Well... pretty much what I've thought for some time; SONY are HUGE in many areas - so what can Tamron do if Sony say no more glass for Alpha cameras unless it has SONY on it ???

I very recently got am email asking me to take part in an "anonymous" survey regarding my views [as per their questions] on the a700 and what, from things listed, I'd like to see available... wireless connectivity being one of the things.

Although they are HUGE they'll need to really improve the quality of out of the box goods - and if they can't then either replace without question faulty goods or loose future trade because of any such problems/hassles the customer goes through... and yes, I am thinking of me ;)
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 12:17:02 PM »
Too bad DrT didn't get that randomly selected survey. That's the feedback central command needs to hear.
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 02:11:23 PM »
well, to tell the truth, the reasons i am staying with A mount is as follows,

i love the old glass

my 7d

in body AS

and this forum.

if i were to judge based on my experiences with sony alone i am sorry to say but i would go Pentax just for the in body AS and the sealed body

second choice would be a N****** D700 and i figure if i sold my array of glass i would have enough to get some nice stabilized lenses also

sorry to be bitter these days but it is really getting to me
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 10:37:55 PM »
Doctore- the Nikon D700 is NOT bees' knees. The newest BJP has an article on them thatis not really encouraging. ALL digital cameras have their pluses and their minuses- and I have to shoot with Canikons a lot. If there would be the all-singing-dancing and cooking camera on the market I guess we would all have it by now?
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #5 on: September 06, 2008, 03:45:38 AM »
stef, what would ever make me leave the mount, has been my experience with the company alont the lines of customer service and poor QC

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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #6 on: September 06, 2008, 03:55:10 AM »
Well- here again not all is roses with Canikons! Canon denied for ages that focusing was a problem with some of their cameras- at least Sony "immediately " "repairs" your camera without telling you it is all your fault and Nikon's customer service is not better- just check out the Nikon discussion forums!
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #7 on: September 06, 2008, 04:01:01 AM »
i would like to say that it is probably just my bad luck, i am sorry to have gone on about it, i am just really missing having a camera with the control and abilities of the 7d or the a700, not that the a100 is not good, i am just not as good with it, and i am loosing time on learning my a700
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #8 on: September 06, 2008, 04:03:20 AM »
Theo- I would probably be screaming by now if one of my cameras would be gone for four months! Why does it take so long? Is the post really that slow? Or is it taking them such a long time???
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #9 on: September 06, 2008, 04:11:51 AM »
It went in 1 month and a half ago, as soon as i returned to the USA, they say they just recieved it so who knows it may have gotten lost in thier incoming shipping area. i sent it in as soon as i arrived in america, as living here in vietnam there was nowhere i could take it to, as if it were to be sent back to me in vietnam i would have gotten charged 90% duty on the insured value so i could have just gone and bought another one for that price
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 06:46:04 PM »
Not too sure whether I'm following all this - I take it that the new A900 won't take my collection of glass that has fit 'his' Dynax 9xi/ 'his'( and now 'my'  KM Dynax 7d) and the Alpha A700 that I'm about to get because of another advancement that happens to render one's saved glass redundant. I wonder why.

I always got the impression that Minolta lense were very good which is why we kept most of them. Ah well............

OH only swapped to a Nikon (spit) D300 because his college only uses Nikon and Cannon and there is a large array of expensive lenses etc on offer for free loan. He has the 300mm 2.8f and 1.4 converter, macro and landscape lenses but can borrow much bigger lenses and sophisticated macro lighting systems.
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #11 on: September 07, 2008, 12:02:06 AM »
It went in 1 month and a half ago, as soon as i returned to the USA, they say they just recieved it so who knows it may have gotten lost in thier incoming shipping area. i sent it in as soon as i arrived in america, as living here in vietnam there was nowhere i could take it to, as if it were to be sent back to me in vietnam i would have gotten charged 90% duty on the insured value so i could have just gone and bought another one for that price

Your problems with repairs have reminded me of how our family got interested in photography.

During the Second World War my Dad was in India (Lahore) as RAF ground crew and an officer was about to throw away a Kodak camera.
 Dad took it from him and sent it away to Kodak in Bombay - even then they had a very good repair service.
 He  paid very little for his first camera as it was well covered for repair - the officer couldn't be bothered..
 I still have many treasured images of his time there and images that formed my attitude to life in a lot of ways  - troop trains/ fighting mongooses /tumblers/ Beri beri in children.


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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2008, 12:24:05 AM »
Not too sure whether I'm following all this - I take it that the new A900 won't take my collection of glass that has fit 'his' Dynax 9xi/ 'his'( and now 'my'  KM Dynax 7d) and the Alpha A700 that I'm about to get because of another advancement that happens to render one's saved glass redundant. I wonder why.

I always got the impression that Minolta lense were very good which is why we kept most of them. Ah well............

ALL Auto Focus lenses will fit ANY Auto-Focus Minolta, Konica-Minolta, and Sony. However, KM and Sony have made lenses that were 'optimised' for digital, called DT. This means, since the sensor is smaller, the lens 'image circle' can be smaller (and cheaper). So, these DT lenses will work on film Auto-Focus, but it'll look odd, as the image circle won't cover the film area properly. The good thing is, you can buy a brand new Sony G lens (G is a series of high quality lenses) and these will work, no problem, on old AutoFocus Minolta cameras.

However, if you've got an old manual Minolta camera, pre-auto focus era, then the lenses will be different. These were MA, MB (I think those are exceedingly rare), and MC and MD (these are in almost all second hand stores). The only 'new' cameras the MC and MD (but I suspect only MD) can work on are Seagul, which are old Minoltas, made under licence in China.

And, yes, Minolta lenses are superb. Better than Canon and Nikon. Though, perhaps Pentax medium format, Hassalblad, and Lieca owners might stand up and say their lenses are better.  :)
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2008, 09:58:13 AM »
or you can buy old minolta G lenses (thats what i did) and say wow i dont need to upgrade any further for better image quality. that is unless some new nifty thing comes out on the FF series Like mind blowing iso 1000 or 1600 that is as noise free as iso 100
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Re: "the necklass will be dramatic"
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2008, 12:24:14 PM »
agreed. I suspect, old Minolta originals might be better than the Carl Zeiss ones that Sony are using, though I don't have a CZ to compare with.
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