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Fill Flash and background
« on: May 22, 2006, 10:47:55 AM »
Hi,

Whilst on holiday in a bright and sunny place, I tried to take some pictures of people I knew in the shade, with a nice background flooded with sunshine.

Problem was that the flash limited the shutter speed to 1/125 (or 1/160). The people were nice. The background was burnt out.


Does anyone have any suggestions on taking a good picture with forground used flash, and still getting the background (Whilst wandering around taking pictures I had to use 1/500 for most.


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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2006, 11:43:21 AM »
Dose the 5d have a ael botton or a slow sync (you can take an exposure reading and ignore the flash). the other possibility is with a HSS flash

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 09:01:27 AM »
Yeah it has an AEL button. Have yet to use it tho. Also has slow sync... but I need speed if it is in bright sunlight?

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 12:00:10 PM »
ael is auto exposure lock. you can use it for difficult exposure situationslike this. the other option is get a 5600hsd it can do up to 1/8000 the second exposure when set to Hess

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 10:11:47 AM »
5600hsd is a flash gun?
Would any flash gun in the hot shoe allow more faster shots?
(just thinking of all options)

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2006, 10:19:02 AM »
most will only sync at a set speed but Minolta flashes have a high speed sync option

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2006, 02:41:40 PM »
Thanks. I'll just have to get  a flash gun before I go to a really sunny place.!! :) :D

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2006, 11:16:17 PM »
Heres a tip I found but have yet to try. I presume it is for the 7D but should work equally well for the 5D.

http://www.friedmanarchives.com/Writings/5D_Sample_Pages/book_page_samples.htm
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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2006, 02:58:07 PM »
Nice link :)

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #9 on: June 14, 2006, 09:46:14 AM »
Hi,

I am still having difficulty taking proper exposed shots when there is a large contrast difference.

Even in auto it doesn't work.

Any tips for this?
(The histogram one is great - used that plus raw to get better pics :) )

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #10 on: June 20, 2006, 04:08:07 AM »
I have the same problems, too. I use a cokin Netral Density filter or polariser to cut some glare, but it's only for some situations. Certainly, not a solution for filling in shadows. I have even tried both together, but results in watery eyes! (the damn bright glare of the sun + external flash)

Just thinking, would underexposing (with a filter, and no flash), and adjusting curves in the raw do the trick in some cases?
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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2006, 04:19:06 AM »
Just thinking, would underexposing (with a filter, and no flash), and adjusting curves in the raw do the trick in some cases?

Don't see why not. I never use a flash and almost always underexpose. If you don't want to go through the trouble of maeesing with curves on every shot Picassa II has a very fast fill flash function that works fairly well for as fast as it is. Other programs have similar functions that do the same job as you may already know.

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Re: Fill Flash and background
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2006, 04:35:26 AM »
cheers
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