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Advice needed for indoor sports
« on: April 13, 2013, 09:43:16 AM »
Tomorrow my son is fighting in a judo competition and this is the first time I get to see this, so I'm thinking of taking one of the cameras.

The camera I'm planing on taking is the A77 due to its speed, but does anyone have any tips as I have not done indoor sports before.

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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2013, 10:49:57 AM »
 My only experience is based on moving birds in poorish light.....You will probably have poor lighting and be fighting the shutter speed/noise compromise.  You ought not need much DOF so crank the ISO up as much as you dare and get a reasonable shutter speed.  Hard to be more specific as I do not know how close you can get....john
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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2013, 06:20:14 AM »
Take the fasted lens you have. (50 f1.4/ 28-75 f2.8/70-200 f2.8 etc)

As John said you may have pure light ,don't be afraid to boost ISO with exposure correction.

Since there will be surrounding light the noise from high ISO will not be visible.
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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2013, 03:51:49 PM »
Skd

Sorry I missed this. Hope it went well.

Indoor gyms and arenas are simply horrible! The worst of the worst: action in low light!

The light color is awful and the light levels low. It seems bright .. until you try to take photos.

Faster lenses and high ISO are the only technical things to help..in my case I have to use high ISOs as I don't have fast lenses other than a 100-mm f2.8 which is usually not long enough. Flashes may not be allowed. 

However, there are techniques to help take photos at slower shutter speeds. The key being able to predict moments of relative stillness in action. There is no sense is taking a throw in mid action at (say) 1/125 second. However, if you shoot at the start of a throw or at the end, then images at slower speeds will be okay. There are some websites with suggestions for indoor sport photography.

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Some references:
http://digital-photography-school.com/indoor-sports-photography
http://unifiedphoto.com/2010/01/268/






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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2013, 05:38:03 PM »
Thanks for all the advice,

Here is one of the shoots from the event, it was harder than I thought and I have decided I need a faster lens, My 50mm f1.8 was no good :(



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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2013, 11:56:30 PM »
Good action and colors.

Yeah it's a tough situation. Funny how our eyes deceive. We think it is bright until we try to take a photo.

Fast lens with elevated ISO is the way to go. If your son will be into this for a few years, you might consider a faster lens. Bill, who used to visit here, decided on the 70-200/2.8 when he was shooting basketball with his A700. A decent range of focal lengths and reasonably fast. It's probably about the right lens for shooting in a gym. (There is probably a discussion here in the Tamron eqivalent for less money.)

Good luck!

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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2013, 12:05:32 AM »
A couple of questions/comments
Are you telling us that the above was shot with the 50mm?  If it was you must have been able to get very close.
I agree with Clive that you may need an F.8 telezoom like the 70-200G.
Then you have no tother choice but tio up the ISO.
You could try a series of shots with a progressive doubling of the ISO and hence shutter speed until you find the optimum combination.  Noise first appears in the dark areas and with the boys wearing white you will have a little more leeway...john
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Re: Advice needed for indoor sports
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2013, 07:39:23 PM »
Good action and colors.

Yeah it's a tough situation. Funny how our eyes deceive. We think it is bright until we try to take a photo.

Fast lens with elevated ISO is the way to go. If your son will be into this for a few years, you might consider a faster lens. Bill, who used to visit here, decided on the 70-200/2.8 when he was shooting basketball with his A700. A decent range of focal lengths and reasonably fast. It's probably about the right lens for shooting in a gym. (There is probably a discussion here in the Tamron eqivalent for less money.)

Good luck!

Clive
PS: How did the little man do?

Thanks for your comments, I will defo look into a fast lens, he has been doing Judo for about 2 years so looks like he is sticking with it.

He came 4th which is a shame, but he still took park.

A couple of questions/comments
Are you telling us that the above was shot with the 50mm?  If it was you must have been able to get very close.
I agree with Clive that you may need an F.8 telezoom like the 70-200G.
Then you have no tother choice but tio up the ISO.
You could try a series of shots with a progressive doubling of the ISO and hence shutter speed until you find the optimum combination.  Noise first appears in the dark areas and with the boys wearing white you will have a little more leeway...john

The above was shot with a 18-135 lens, but was shot with a 50mm focal length as I was sitting on the edge of the matt.

Thanks for the comments