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Offline chorleyjeff

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Date/time set up when battery changed
« on: June 02, 2014, 09:59:48 PM »
Help please.
Every time I take out and replace the battery in my A580 I get the date/time set up screen. I then set the date and time. It started happening only recently.
Any ideas please what I or the camera is doing for this to happen and how do I cure the problem?
I have gone through the camera instruction manual but not got an answer for the problem.
Thanks for any  advice.
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2014, 10:13:51 PM »
I'm sorry, but most likely you will need to have the internal battery replaced.

That means a trip to the service center... :(
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2014, 11:17:57 PM »
I'm sorry, but most likely you will need to have the internal battery replaced.

That means a trip to the service center... :(

Oh no.
Thanks for breaking it to me gently!
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2014, 11:35:37 PM »
Cholly is correct.  The camera have an internal battery which keeps the settings and is replenished from the removable battery.
Has the camera been left unused for an extended period?
If you can live with the hassle, I do not think it is critical.  Try looking up internal battery on the web and see what come up... john
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 09:50:46 AM »
Advice: Never leave the battery get 0% in camera for long time since the internal battery get discharge and eventually defective. In Cameras that i don't use often i just keep a used battery and check every 3~5 months that the capacity is still O.K
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 06:47:34 PM »
Cholly is correct.  The camera have an internal battery which keeps the settings and is replenished from the removable battery.
Has the camera been left unused for an extended period?
If you can live with the hassle, I do not think it is critical.  Try looking up internal battery on the web and see what come up... john

The camera is used frequently and I don't let the main battery get exhausted so the internal battery should be charged ok.
It is a bit of an irritation but liveable with so I'll take no drastic action.
I have looked at various postings on forums but they lead me nowhere I can follow.
Thanks for your reply.
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 01:58:14 AM »
^^^True.

The only thing you can do is send it to Sony for service.

If you live here in the States, there is a flat $168.00 charge just for an ESTIMATE on any work...... >:(
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 12:58:11 PM »
Thanks for info.
Seems an amateur type camera is now a throwaway electrical consumer item.
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2014, 01:45:07 PM »
^^^^THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS!!!

At least, that's how Sony is approaching the marketing of it's amateur DSLR camera range. >:(
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2014, 01:49:44 PM »
If you can find an inexpensive A.C. adaptor to plug into your camera to keep it powered while you charge the battery then you won't have to re-set the clock so often.

http://www.amazon.com/HQRP-compatible-DSLR-A560-DSLR-A580-DSLR-A900/dp/B003XJ0FWI/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401972519&sr=1-13&keywords=sony+a580+ac+adapter

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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #10 on: June 07, 2014, 04:35:16 PM »
If you can find an inexpensive A.C. adaptor to plug into your camera to keep it powered while you charge the battery then you won't have to re-set the clock so often.

http://www.amazon.com/HQRP-compatible-DSLR-A560-DSLR-A580-DSLR-A900/dp/B003XJ0FWI/ref=sr_1_13?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1401972519&sr=1-13&keywords=sony+a580+ac+adapter

GOOD LUCK!!!

Thanks for the workaround.
As a matter of interest do Sony cameras have a design life like most  cars, I have been  told,have a design life of 7years?
If so I can see why photographers of static scenes like landscapes often use medium/large format film cameras then scan the negatives.

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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2014, 01:09:28 AM »
^^^I suspect the answer is yes. A much more pronounced problem with true DSLRs and their complicated mechanicals for flipping mirrors up and out of the light path.

SHOULD be less of a problem with mirrorless cameras and their greatly reduced mechanical complexity, but 150,000 shutter snaps still means Sony thinks that EVENTUALLY their product will "wear out." :(
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2014, 01:37:09 AM »
Jeff,
When you look at one of the top range film cameras, it is a nicely precision engineered simple design.  If you were building one today, then it would still look and operate like the film camera from the 1980's.
When you look at the DSLR, they are all miniature computers with a complex interaction of buttons and software.  Your computer of today looks and operates nothing like you first computer.  It has a useful life of several years.  Same with your digital camera. .........john
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Re: Date/time set up when battery changed
« Reply #13 on: June 08, 2014, 06:14:59 PM »
^^^They really ARE little computers.

It always amazed me that consumers would just accept that expensive products have a limited lifespan.

American automobile companies from the late 1960's through the mid 1990's depended on "planned obsolescence" as a way to stimulate vehicle sales. Poorly engineered, poorly built cars that only last 3-5 years will HAVE to be replaced. They didn't count on Japanese and German quality changing the face of the passenger vehicle market though. ;)

Still, you can design a button to last nearly forever and what can go wrong with a microchip?

A DSLR should last for 20-30 years with moderate use and good maintenance!

OK... that's my gripe for the day. I feel better. :D
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