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Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on October 31, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
Please feel free to post some higher ISO shots from the A99.

Just as an explanation: I have just received the Sony A99 yesterday and to do some test shots around the house, I set the camera to auto-ISO. I then picked the ones with higher ISOs to post in here.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8050/8142514064_2463c58ebf_o.jpg)
Sony A99
CZ 24-70mm @ 70mm
ISO 800
1/80s
f3.2
raw converted in lightroom


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8052/8142484703_be0b98d128_o.jpg)
Sony A99
CZ 24-70mm @ 70mm
ISO 1000
1/80s
f3.2
flash used: F58- AM
raw converted in lightroom


(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8190/8142514280_0870d31730_o.jpg)
Sony A99
CZ 24-70mm @ 70mm
ISO 6400
1/60s
f3.2
raw converted in lightroom


This last one is an out of camera jpeg. Only resized for web use.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8048/8142514190_39ede16d2d_o.jpg)
Sony A99
CZ 24-70mm @ 70mm
ISO 4000
1/80s
f3.2
Jpeg

Stef.
P.S. I am over the moon with the new camera...
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: vaughaag on October 31, 2012, 08:21:30 PM
Very nice Stef,

The OOC Jpeg looks pretty good and the 6400 very good in deed. How does it feel in the hand, well balanced?

Rgds,
Dave
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on October 31, 2012, 08:25:08 PM
Dave- early days, I just got it yesterday and it is raining cats and dogs outside! What I have seen so far actually impresses me a lot! It delivers outstanding results right out of camera, something that I have been missing a bit lately. I can not say how well it compares to the A900 as I have not used it a lot.
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: vaughaag on October 31, 2012, 08:26:37 PM
Thanks Stef,

First impressions are often right when it comes to tech. If something works well the first time you use it, I find you warm to it more :)

Looking forward to seeing some more examples soon.

Dave
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on October 31, 2012, 09:22:36 PM
Those results look great Stef, even the OOC one and the (lack of) noise at those high ISO`s is very impressive.

More info that may lead me to getting the A99 eventually, but will wait a while and get used to using a 500 mirror lens again.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on October 31, 2012, 09:55:42 PM
One thingI have to get used to again since my A77 is the extreme shallow depth of field...look at the dogs nose! What I can say so far is that I would have no worries at all to shoot at ISO3200 or 6400 with this camera. While it was possible with the A900 to shoot at higher ISOsI had to put quite some work into the post-processing. With the A99 this "work" is next to none :P In all fairness though, higher ISOs are not too much of my concern, image quality in general is. I want a camera that gives me outstanding results at base ISO and here I am particularly impressed by the dynamic range of the A99.
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: chappo1 on October 31, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
Dave- early days, I just got it yesterday and it is raining cats and dogs outside!
Stef.

Well the roof has kept the cats out but looks like it is raining dogs inside ! :grin:  (sorry about the warped sense of humour).
Keep the "blog" going Stef.  Rest assured we are watching.............john
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: REX (aka TG) on November 01, 2012, 04:08:06 AM
Very well done i have doubts about the picture quality of the camera. How many stops advantages do you find over the a900 in DR and ISO ?

Are a99 & a900 equally good at basic ISO and light situation?
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 01, 2012, 05:10:24 AM
Rex, I have sold my A900 and therefore I can not really compare the two. What I can say so without a doubt is that the higher ISO images (3200/6400) need next to no work with the A99 while it took quite some effort with the A900 to make them look good.

The jpeg machine is outstanding compared to the A77 and the A900.

The question about base ISO I can not answer, but again the dynamic range is stunning with the A99.

For my needs so far, I can say the A99 is worth the upgrade from both the A77 and the A99. I have to admit though, I have not had the time to properly try it out. i will keep you updated.
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: REX (aka TG) on November 01, 2012, 05:19:23 AM
Very well done i have doubts about the picture quality of the camera. How many stops advantages do you find over the a900 in DR and ISO ?

Are a99 & a900 equally good at basic ISO and light situation?

Very well done i have NO doubts about the picture quality of the camera. How many stops advantages do you find over the a900 in DR and ISO ?

No was missing from my original post i am sorry i meant the opposite thing
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 01, 2012, 04:55:38 PM
Rex...you want me to guess...two stops in noise and dynamic rangew is plein outstanding. I am sure the A99 will beat any (!) other top end camera model in that respect. As said before, I was reluctant to use the A900 @ISOs higher than 1600 (if even that) and I do not have any problems using the A99 at ISO 3200 and if needed ISO6400. Post-processing is minimal. You can always go and try one? They should be in the shops by now.
Stef.
Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 01, 2012, 05:08:02 PM
Thanks for the examples Stef. High ISO looks good and you can also see the large dynamic range. Impressive results.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: REX (aka TG) on November 01, 2012, 05:31:20 PM
Thanks Stef for the reply and the report.I am still at work and i saw the reply and i want to say something.

My decision for a99 was made many days before but i was waitting for someone i trust to give me definitely 100% answers about focus,ISO Dynamic Range. Many times the manufactures pay money to the testers/magazines so not very reliable reviews.

I could have the a99 already the day was released but i decided to give time for the users review and time that they have the accessories available like Rear screen protector.Tomorrow i am going to Cyprus Rally IRC i cant imagine taking a99 without screen protector or having the a99 and not to using at the Rally.

I like action and i know if i buy the camera without protector i will damage the screen like i did on my a77 last year at the 2011 IRC . So i will get it together with the screen protector in a few week later :)

I hope with this tool to take some real good pictures in Africa when i will go on Christmas.

Thanks

Vyronas
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Clive on November 01, 2012, 07:48:22 PM
Guess we should all go to Russia and have our cameras stolen. Joke!! :P :D

Thanks Stef. Very impressive.

Clive
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 01, 2012, 08:04:06 PM
Guess we should all go to Russia and have our cameras stolen.

HA, HAA, Clive. You tear my heart, but salvation is coming ... :P

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 02, 2012, 04:41:12 PM
I'll get my new toy/tool next week, but unfortunately I am away all week ... in the end I will have it.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: pttdds on November 03, 2012, 03:27:47 AM
Got my A99 on Oct 30 -- ahead of expectations -- serial number 277!  Totally agree with Stef.  I started with auto ISO on P to let the default factory settings make the first choices.  To my surprise the first shots were at ISO 6400 but seemed no noisier than my A900 was at 800.  (I too have sold my A 900 so cannot directly compare.)  Dynamic range seems amazing.  Focus likewise.  This promises to be a very exciting new camera.  Delighted to have one.  Pleased that most of the buttons match those on my A77 easing the transition a bit.

Now have a good reason to do some posting again.

Don
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Clive on November 03, 2012, 04:32:39 AM
I demand that the mods lock this thread immediately. I am becoming jealous -- again! Please cease and desist. :P :D Joking.

It is great to hear such glowing reports...

Thanks.

Clive
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: chappo1 on November 03, 2012, 05:36:12 AM
I have started a new thread and posted a link to the .pdf manual I stumbled on from Dyxum.....
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 03, 2012, 08:12:20 AM
One culprit I have found so far...the battery life is ridicuously short...and I really do not want to get the power grip! Firstly, I do not like the weight, secondly it does not look good and thirdly, for changing all three batteries including the one in the camera you have to remove the grip all the time. Guess I have no option but to carry three batteries around.
Stef.
Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 03, 2012, 10:32:01 AM
...the battery life is ridicuously short...

That seems to be a problem noticed in other reviews too. Me don't like it.

Already thinking about one or two week backpacking trips. Do I need a battery for every day? I have to test that or find some kind of solar power battery charger ...

Thanks Stef for the comment.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: FarmerDave on November 03, 2012, 06:02:09 PM
One culprit I have found so far...the battery life is ridicuously short...and I really do not want to get the power grip! Firstly, I do not like the weight, secondly it does not look good and thirdly, for changing all three batteries including the one in the camera you have to remove the grip all the time. Guess I have no option but to carry three batteries around.
Stef.
Have you tried turning off GPS and see if that would help?
For a short while with my A77 before it aquired my current location it just keep searching and drain the battery.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 03, 2012, 09:52:34 PM
Yes, GPS is off. One good tip though, not battery related: set the camera to jpeg, then turn NR to off, set it back to raw and you will get a higher burst rate as NR also happens for the in raw embedded jpeg files. Give it a try and you will know what I mean.

2 week trip rannari...you need to take about 30 (!) batteries for that! I go easily through two (!) a day!
Stef.
Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 04, 2012, 05:39:48 PM
One good tip though, not battery related: set the camera to jpeg, then turn NR to off, set it back to raw and you will get a higher burst rate as NR also happens for the in raw embedded jpeg files.

2 week trip rannari...you need to take about 30 (!) batteries for that! I go easily through two (!) a day!

Thanks for the tip Stef. I'll try it when I get my tool.

On backpacking trips what we do, the main thing is not photography. Depending of a terrain we advance from  5-10 kilometers to 30 kilometers or more. One hour walking and 10-15 minutes brakes. Mostly taking photos during brakes. If terrain is easy, camera is hanging close and more photos during walk. Like said, I have to test this feature. I will not buy 30 batteries ;-)

One other thing is the EVF at winter time. How is the cold weather affecting viewfinder, and I mean weather when the temperature is -20 to 40 degrees or lower. Again, this will be tested this winter.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: FarmerDave on November 04, 2012, 06:08:33 PM
He he, I am holding out before getting the A99 so I don't have one (yet).
Just another thought Stef., does the A99's LCD have the extra bright Sunny weather setting like the RX100? It eats battery power like mad. (I don't imagaine you have that set for I live in Vancouver also) I don't remember reading poor battery life as a con on other boards so I wonder.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 05, 2012, 01:17:13 AM
Farmerdave, I only had the A99 since a couple of days and as it is rainings cats and dogs here, as you know...I have not used it much. I am also to busy withwork right now to find the time to try it out. All the other posts where questions re the information I had on the A99. So far I have to say I am a very happy bunny with it. Also, I do thing that most of my batteries are older and that might be the issue. Time will tell. I hope that Sony brings a battery out that is of the same size but holds more power...
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: KAP on November 05, 2012, 05:16:15 AM
Such glowing reports ... Definitely makes me want one.

I'd also like your cute dog too, Stef!   
Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 05, 2012, 05:35:44 AM
... does the A99's LCD have the extra bright Sunny weather setting like the RX100? It eats battery power like mad.

According the manual there is a Bright Sunny setting.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 09, 2012, 01:27:54 AM
Here are some more REALLY high and low ISO shots:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3333559 (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3333559)

I do not post the images here as with the restrictions of under 200kb they are too small to show the high ISO effect IMHO.

I know the one image with the lady is a bit grainy, BUT a) it was a jpeg @ ISO8000 AND I have used the 2x zoom function. FWIW: IMHO I can leave the tcs from now on at home.
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: BedotheCreak on November 09, 2012, 12:25:19 PM
Rex,

You are in Cyprus?

If so, are there any decent Sony dealers on the island?

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: REX (aka TG) on November 09, 2012, 07:49:17 PM
yes i am from Cyprus and i live in nicosia. the only one that supply  Sony  equipment  is only Sony Cyprus who is under sony Hellas 
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: BedotheCreak on November 09, 2012, 08:32:00 PM
Rex,

Hmm,

Doesn't sound promising then, and I guess that even if they provide equipment the VAT at 15% adds quite a bit to the cost.

How and where do you source most of your Sony camera gear from? You mentioned 'Digital Revue' before?

Shipping costs by Fedex from US/ UK seem to be very expensive to Cyprus.

Any thoughts or ideas?

Cheers

Dave
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: BedotheCreak on November 09, 2012, 08:51:29 PM
Oops!

Wrong again, it was Frank that mentioned 'Digital Revue'.

Cheers

Dave
Title: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: rannari on November 10, 2012, 05:24:04 AM
Thanks Stef for the link and shots. Hopefully I can do some test shooting this weekend.

kurt
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: Stef. on November 10, 2012, 11:09:09 PM
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3333559 (http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/thread/3333559)

Yes Rex I am very happy with what the A99 is capable of producing!
Stef.
Title: Re: Sony A99 - high ISO shots
Post by: REX (aka TG) on November 11, 2012, 01:21:06 PM
Thanks Stef for the post.

Ranari is time to post some pictures or experience with your a99 :)