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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #15 on: November 24, 2012, 05:27:36 AM »
I was surprised to see that in the US, Sony is offering a 31 inch TV for free when one buys the a99... Are they having trouble getting the a99 off the ground, or are they simply de-stocking their TVs as that sector is no longer strategic for them?
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2012, 11:20:39 AM »
As I just said on another thread, I just received the a99; I feel like a kid again!
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2012, 09:14:16 PM »
Marc, I just had a talk with my local Sony shop here in Vancouver and according to them the A99 flies off the shelf.
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2012, 05:37:26 AM »
If a99 was as fast as a77 at 10/12 fps and full resolution then i would have sold my a77 for a second a99 :)
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2012, 07:21:45 PM »
If a99 was as fast as a77 at 10/12 fps and full resolution then i would have sold my a77 for a second a99 :)

Interesting remark Rex. The FPS, although not everything, is one thing that holds me back re the a99 - - - the main other thing is the cost :)

Do you have a favourite of the two? Or are they used for different types of shoot you may be doing?
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2012, 10:51:40 PM »
I am on my way to africa and the 300G with converter will be fix on a77, so the lens will be 800mm and full 24 mp resolution.

On a99 it will be 600mm and if i use the 8/10 fps mode then i have to dial with 10 mp and if i use it at 10 fps only jpeq :( this is what i mean and for me is very important . So Sony knows exactly what they do :)
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2012, 11:57:45 PM »
If a99 was as fast as a77 at 10/12 fps and full resolution then i would have sold my a77 for a second a99 :)

I now have had an A77 for about a week and I was planning to keep my A850 and to sell my A700. However the A77 does not seem to me to be as easy to use as the A700 nor is it as intuitive. It has of course many more features than the a700, faster speed and some neat settings like the focus peaking and magnifier and I admit the EVF is possibly a bit better than the OVF, although in low light it is very pixelated. Unfortunately, the buttons are laid out differently and for me that is a problem, especially when still using the A850. The movie feature seems to be very good, but I doubt I will use it much.  Perhaps I will change my mind if or when I get used to using the A77.

I'm afraid that Sony may have moved away from the simplicity of Minolta and created a camera more like a point and shoot with complex menus and awkward button placement. Having the buttons all on the left right hand side (excluding the menu) means I have to hold the camera with the right hand while crossing the left hand over to reach the buttons I cant reach with my thumb. I am still waiting for the vertical grip to be delivered, which may make this a mute point.

At this time, If the A99 is laid out in the same way as the A77, I'm not sure that I will ever purchase it. That's just me and should not be taken as a repudiation of the A77/A99. I also feel that the need for a full frame camera like the A99 is greatly reduced by the existence of the A77. They both have the same number of pixels and although the A99 pixels are larger, all the reviews I have read say they do not provide better low light shots above ISO 1600. We may have to buy the high pixel count full frame that has been announced to get true high resolution in low light situations, but at $4500 as suggested, no way! Anyway, please do not flame me as I do not own the A99 and I could be totally wrong, I need more time with the A77 plus a V.G. to be sure of my facts/assumptions.
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #22 on: December 23, 2012, 12:29:52 AM »
If a99 was as fast as a77 at 10/12 fps and full resolution then i would have sold my a77 for a second a99 :)

Interesting remark Rex. The FPS, although not everything, is one thing that holds me back re the a99 - - - the main other thing is the cost :)

Do you have a favourite of the two? Or are they used for different types of shoot you may be doing?

Frank, I have both and both have their pluses. I use the A77 as my run around camera and for sports. With the 16-50mm the body and the lens are weather sealed and believe me...I had the combo out in a rain storm for a couple of hours with no hickups.

The A99 is the camera that I choose for ultimate quality. I treat it a bit like my medium format equipment and use it mainly in the studio, for portraits, still life and landscape.

Ascot, I agrre the A77 is a beast which is very very very different to all the former cameras. The manual is a must read and Gary Friedman's book is highoy recommended. It will take you quite a while before the camera becomes second nature, but then...I highly expect you to not want to miss it.

I have traded my A700 for the A77 and my A900 for my A99 and do not regret it.

I believe the A99 is quite a bit superior in terms of high ISO shooting, dynamic range and final inage quality to all the other Sony cameras and what I like most - the post processing is much easier. With i.e. the high ISO shots from the A900 it took quite a bit of tweaking to get verey good results while with the files from the A99 I pretty much get away with using Adobe's Lightroom presets.

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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #23 on: December 23, 2012, 09:55:08 AM »
Ascot, all the buttons in a99 except Menu-button, are located on the right hand side. Buttons have different shape and size which make them easy to separate from each other. I think the buttons are also easy to reach and find even when you are looking through viewfinder.

In vertical grip the buttons are located in different way and to my hand the EV-level controll button is just under my thumb and thus some accidental adjusments have happened ;-)

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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #24 on: December 23, 2012, 08:34:32 PM »
Ascot, all the buttons in a99 except Menu-button, are located on the right hand side.
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Yes Kurt, much as they are on the A77. In my original post I said left hand by mistake. I have corrected that.

My problem with the buttons is that I am forced to use my left eye to look through the view finder (due to a permanent injury to my right eye) and my nose and right cheek are in front of all these buttons. I had the same problem with the A700 and A850 but it did not seem quite so severe as the A77. Not to worry though as I am sure I will work around it in time as it becomes more familiar. The vertical grip, when I get it, should also help a lot. I still think the A77 is a bit like a glorified point and shoot. :D That impression will change with time I am sure as it certainly is NOT a point and shoot.

Ascot, I agree the A77 is a beast which is very very very different to all the former cameras. The manual is a must read and Gary Friedman's book is highoy recommended. It will take you quite a while before the camera becomes second nature, but then...I highly expect you to not want to miss it.
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #25 on: December 23, 2012, 08:57:12 PM »
Hi Ascot

"Old habits die hard" as they say :) We are all so use to using the viewfinder but we now have the LCD screen for 'live view' on the a77. Gets a bit of getting use to I'm finding - hopefully this will be the a77's saviour with you given time :)

With being a specs wearer also, varifocal type, I've never really been happy with keeping glasses on and putting the viewfinder up to compose shots, use to take the darn things off which didn't help at times with "focus" - now I keep them on and "do my best" with them. I'm still doing it, using the viewfinder, but I do make the effort to "try" to use the screen more...

Wish you well in coming to terms - as I'm certain you will - with the intricacies of the a77 :)
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #26 on: December 23, 2012, 10:10:07 PM »
Thanks Frank, although I cannot imagine holding the camera out at arms length to take a picture using live view, especially with a big heavy lens stuck to the front. That's one of the reasons I say it is like a point and shoot. :D
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2012, 01:13:31 AM »
Thanks Frank, although I cannot imagine holding the camera out at arms length to take a picture using live view, especially with a big heavy lens stuck to the front. That's one of the reasons I say it is like a point and shoot. :D

The moment you use a tripod though, the live view with focus peaking (works even in af mode!) is heaven!
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2012, 09:22:07 AM »
I am on my way to africa and the 300G with converter will be fix on a77, so the lens will be 800mm and full 24 mp resolution.

On a99 it will be 600mm and if i use the 8/10 fps mode then i have to dial with 10 mp and if i use it at 10 fps only jpeq :( this is what i mean and for me is very important . So Sony knows exactly what they do :)

Only the lens will NOT be an 800mm lens on your A77.
It will be a 300mm lens, magnified to the equivalent of 600mm (assuming a 2x TC) and then cropped to APS-C.

Putting a lens on an APS-C camera does not increase it's magnification, it just crops the image.

Where you gain in that the A77 has 24MP in that APS-C area, compared to the 12MP (aprox) the A99 (or A900) has, so you can enlarge the image more before hitting problems due to the available sensor resolution - but this is no different to the 'gain' you get from using an A580 rather than an A200 - the A580 has a higher number of MP, so 'magnifies' the image.
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Re: Shall I trade my A900 for A99?
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2012, 11:58:03 AM »
I admit the EVF is possibly a bit better than the OVF, although in low light it is very pixelated.

Thats my one major concernt about the A99 and one thing that may hold me back from getting one.
99% of my images are taken in low light situations.

How easy is it focussing with a pixelated view of say pebbles and rocks in the foreground in low light, bearing in mind i cannot remember the last time is used AF on my A900 as everything is manually focussed.


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