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Offline ignas.grigaravicius

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Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« on: July 14, 2014, 06:20:46 PM »
Helllo everyone,

I have Sony a57 and now looking for cheap flash. I found on ebay yongnuo 560II specially for sony alpha models and after reviews online it looks like that working with this camera. But there is yongnuo 560 III model witch have wireless receiver. Problem is that this flash is compatible only with nikon and canon cameras. So the question is the hot shoe adapter will work with that flash??? anyone have this flash and using on sony alpha cameras???  i want to buy this flash yongnuo 560III and rf-602 transmiter to use wireless. So who have any experience with thoose thing please coment.

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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2014, 11:44:58 PM »
I have the 560-II (Sony variant), which is a great manual flash - for the price, it's difficult to beat.

The 560-III, which includes the wireless receiver, should work fine off camera triggered by a Sony fit rf-602 transmitter.

On-Camera, you woudl need a hot shoe adaptor - again, it should work fine in this configuration since it is manual only - the only contact used is the primary 'fire' signal, so there is no problem with general compatibility.

However, all the above is based upon my understanding of the flash, not from actual experience with a 560-III on Sony, so I cannot guarantee I am correct :)

Will you be using it primarily on or off camera?
If mainly on-camera, I would suggest getting a 560-II in Sony fit, so it will mount directly, then use a Sony fit transmitter / receiver to cover wireless.
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2014, 11:12:29 AM »
Thanks Faldrax!
mostly i will use it on camera, but thinking to get wireless transmitter and receiver for camera too in case i will decide to do small studio and use it as side flash. Mark (III) is only $10 more expensive but fits only for canon and nikon...will it work with hot shoe adapter? any other advises for cheap flash?
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2014, 01:21:37 PM »
As the 560-III is a manual flash, only the central pin is actually used, so it should work fine on-camera via an adaptor.

The downside is that you have the extra set of connectors and associated 'wobble' that will result from having the adaptor between camera and flash.

Personally I would opt for a Sony fit flash for on-camera use, plus a set of Sony Fit wireless triggers - as you are opting for a manual flash, you can get cheap triggers, so you are not paying much (if any) extra for this option.
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2014, 09:13:13 PM »
how about Yongnuo YN-565 EX TTL is it ttl function will work? i know that sony a57 have wireless function inside, do i need any other transmitters for 560 III?
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 09:27:11 AM »
how about Yongnuo YN-565 EX TTL is it ttl function will work? i know that sony a57 have wireless function inside, do i need any other transmitters for 560 III?

I don't think they do a Sony version of the YN-565.
For ttl, the flash needs to understand the communications protocol with the camera, which will be brand specific (and, to a much lesser extent model specific), and this is more than just a simple case of which pins to connect, it will be down to specific signalling patterns.

So the YN-565 for Canon will only work on Canon cameras, for example.

The cheapest options for flash I can think of which can be used in ttl mode with Sony's is the Jessops AFD-360, or the Minolta 3600 HS(D). The drawback of these is they are both significantly lower power than the 560-II, and if you want to use them in manual mode (which can often be the case when using them off-camera) they offer much less control options.
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Tamron 150-600, Sony 50 f1.4, Minolta 85 f1.4 G RS, Sony 100 f2.8 Macro
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2014, 07:53:08 PM »
Thanks Faldrax
i think the best option will be Yongnuo 560 II with wireless transmitters/receivers and without any adapters.
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Re: Sony a57 + Yongnuo 560 III
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2014, 11:49:41 PM »
I use a pair of Pixel Opas to trigger my strobes from the A99.  They are manual triggers only but I believe the Sony variant Pixel Kings work with TTL.
I have just bought a Sony  HVL- F20M to wirelessly trigger the HVL-58AM as there is no built in flash on the A99.
I have dabbled with optical slaves as well.
I received 2 Minolta 3200i flashes in a deal for some Minolta gear and managed to trigger them with optical slaves (from the on board flash on the A700) as, being quite old, they do not understand the Minolta/Sony protocol.
(As a side issue they go into sleep mode if not triggered but you can get around that by superglueing the switch to the on position and just control on/off by removing batteries).
If you are prepared to work in manual and keep your eyes open, you can get old flash units quite cheaply.

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