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Title: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: vetteman44 on August 07, 2017, 01:12:18 PM
  I am in the process of Buying a Sony A99 and want to get the Best Zoom for the money ( Not the CZ) Thats out of my budget, Can you recommend one ?  The zoom range 28-80 or around that . Thank you
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 07, 2017, 04:45:48 PM
What type of photography will you be using it for?

In the 28-80mm range you have a few options.

Here are a few reviews:

http://kurtmunger.com/minolta_af_28_70mm_f_2_8_g_reviewid252.html

http://kurtmunger.com/konica_minolta_af_28_75mm_f_2_8id255.html

http://kurtmunger.com/sony_28_75mm_f_2_8id110.html

http://kurtmunger.com/tamron_af_28_75mm_f_2_8id144.html

http://www.dyxum.com/reviews/lenses/Minolta-AF-28-80mm-F4-5.6_review81.html

Lots of choices in terms of both price AND image quality.

GOOD LUCK!
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 07, 2017, 05:41:52 PM
you don't say where your are from, but this store in the UK  have a few in this range here.................

http://www.ffordes.com/category/Lenses/Sony/Minolta_AF/Sony/Minolta

Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 08, 2017, 09:44:10 AM
You might also want to consider the Sigma and Tamron 27-70 f/2.8 A mount lenses.

http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/cameras-and-camcorders/photography-accessories/lenses/sigma-24-70-mm-f-2-8-ex-dg-if-hsm-standard-zoom-lens-for-sony-10155683-pdt.html?awc=1599_1502181553_b7d7e3b4d82ae214788b6518cbe1aead&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Camerapricebuster~Comparison%20Engine~24658&awid=24658
 (http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/cameras-and-camcorders/photography-accessories/lenses/sigma-24-70-mm-f-2-8-ex-dg-if-hsm-standard-zoom-lens-for-sony-10155683-pdt.html?awc=1599_1502181553_b7d7e3b4d82ae214788b6518cbe1aead&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~Camerapricebuster~Comparison%20Engine~24658&awid=24658)

https://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/p-tamron-24-70mm-f2-8-sp-di-usd-lens-sony-fitting.htm (https://www.bristolcameras.co.uk/p-tamron-24-70mm-f2-8-sp-di-usd-lens-sony-fitting.htm)

I have the Sigma, and have been quite happy with it.
The Tamron is a bit more expensive, but may be easier to get hold of (Sigma are moving towards their Art range, but have not brought out the 24-70 Art in A mount).
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 08, 2017, 03:37:41 PM
LOTS of options. :)
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: chappo1 on August 09, 2017, 04:06:33 AM
Can't help I am afraid.  My choice of 27-70 was the CZ.  Other than being heavy it is a top class lens but, as you point out, rather expensive....john
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 09, 2017, 04:59:33 AM
^^^Have you SEEN what Sony is asking for the GII version?!?! :o
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 09, 2017, 04:41:15 PM
I think that all the new lens` that are coming out for the E mount are grossly overpriced, way beyond what the `normal` photographer can afford
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 09, 2017, 06:13:05 PM
^^^This is the trend and Sony is leading the way. :(

Cellphones have SERIOUSLY cut into camera sales, ESPECIALLY point and shoots, so companies are staying alive by charging MORE for specific products.

It's only going to get worse as the DSLR/ILC market continues to shrink. :(
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 10, 2017, 01:12:56 PM
The recent E mount lenses are all 'premium' Full Frame Lenses, and have been priced accordingly.

When you add in the general price rises for imported goods due to the ongoing weakness on the Pound, it's hardly surprising they seem expensive.

Sony are trying to target the 'Pro' market, by offering gear that matches or exceeds the top end from Canon / Nikon - but it does leave a gap in the budget / intermediate level.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 10, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
I am sure they can release some reasonably priced primes.

The likes of a new pocket rocket 135mm f2.8, for around £250 would be great........
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 10, 2017, 07:35:57 PM
They have the new FE 85mm 1.8 as an example of an inexpensive quality lens. But the MAJORITY of the new FE and re-released A mount lenses are ALL premium priced.

I mean... the original 70-200mm f/2.8 G was expensive at $2000.00... but the new GII is $3000.00!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 11, 2017, 09:36:36 AM
The only way we are likely to get 'budget' lenses is if Sigma or Tamron bring them out.

Looking at Canon & Nikon

Canon 135 f/2  £859
Nikon 135 f/2 £1075
(They only do an f/2, not an f/2.8)

But no 'budget option from either.

Canon 70-200 f/2.8 IS USM II  £1699
Nikon  70-200 f/2.8 FL Ed VR £2199
Sony A 70-200 f/2.8 G SSM II £2499
Sony E 70-200 f/2.8 G Master £2499

Economies of scale are clear here - the price increasing as market share decreases
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 11, 2017, 03:53:06 PM
Yep. :(
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 11, 2017, 09:36:49 PM
Diverting slightly, I think that if the likes of Samyang should a/f some of there fine lens` and just put about £100 on the price, should sell like hotcakes.......

That may make Sony think more about the prices
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 11, 2017, 11:47:01 PM
We can only hope....
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 12, 2017, 11:28:17 AM
Samyang have started making autofocus lenses, but so far only for E mount.

Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 12, 2017, 06:51:30 PM
^^^Looks like they think Sony mirrorless is the future of ILC photography...
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 13, 2017, 01:43:21 PM
^^^Looks like they think Sony mirrorless is the future of ILC photography...

Possibly, but it's also a sector where Sony is a clear leader, with few native alternatives to the expensive (but good) Sony full frame lenses - IE there is a clear segment where then have no particular competition.

If they tried to compete in A mount, there are Sigma and Tamron AF lenses, plus a large volume of s/h Sony & Minolta lenses. Much harder to produce something which there is not an existing alternative to.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 13, 2017, 09:30:27 PM
True.

But if they produced a HIGH Image Quality, Well Built, LOW COST AF alternative for the A mount line-up I would CERTAINLY give them a SERIOUS look.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 14, 2017, 09:37:57 AM
same here Cholly, I saw one review where the Samyang 85mm f1.4 gave the Zeiss a good run for the money, at a fraction of the cost.

Bring it on Samyang...........
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 14, 2017, 07:10:14 PM
Yep!
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: AScot on August 15, 2017, 06:09:01 PM
Just getting back on topic, I have the Minolta 28-135 f4-4.5 which will give the CZ a run for its money. I remember a comparison by a pro that showed it to be sharper than the CZ in many ways. It has greater range than a 28-70/80 and is sharp if you get a good one, however it is heavy, just like the CZ.

You must be careful when buying these Minolta 28-135mm lenses. They have a macro feature which works by pushing a switch and turning the zoom into the macro range. It then changes to manual focus, which is fine for macros. However some bright spark came up with a method of modifying it to do macro in AF mode. This entailed taking the lens apart and that was the problem. For everyone who managed to do it correctly, there were ten who did not, making the lens all manual focus and totally messing it up. If you can get one of these lenses, make sure it has not been tampered with. Pay a bit extra and get one form a dealer, not from eBay, You will not be sorry. It is truly a nice if heavy lens, 770g. See Here (http://www.ebay.com/gds/Minolta-Maxxum-28-135mm-Standard-Zoom-Like-a-G-/10000000001926841/g.html)
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 15, 2017, 11:17:54 PM
I agree with you on the 28-135mm... ESPECIALLY on full-frame cameras.

It's excellent.... IF as Charles said, you can get one in good condition. It's one of my favorite go-to lenses for everything from landscape to portraiture in good light.

And because Minolta made so many of them you can usually find a good copy for a VERY reasonable price. ;)
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Gordon McGeachie on August 16, 2017, 09:05:16 AM
is the 28-135 the one nicknamed `the secret handshake` due to Minolta being in collaboration with Zeiss?

Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 16, 2017, 04:19:06 PM
That's the one....

It's an EXCELLENT optic.

Slow AF... but the image quality is VERY good.

You'll have to buy a lens hood for it... and don't buy a petal hood 'cause the front element rotates. But it's a NICE piece of glass.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: AScot on August 16, 2017, 06:24:25 PM
Actually it is an internal focus lens (one of the first, if not the first) and the front element does not rotate (unless it's broken). The internal focus is one of its quirks as the focus ring is at the rear, quite close to the mount, and is therefore harder to get used to as your hand naturally goes to the front. I would not say that the AF was slow, on my A850 and normal decent light it focuses as quick as other Minolta lenses, Quite fast but a bit noisy. No good for movie mode if you want that.

I have a circular 72mm rubber hood with a polarizer permanently mounted on the front. The rubber hood allows for folding back various amounts to prevent vignetting when shooting at wide angles.

If anyone is interested in a high quality for a small price, this is in my opinion the way to go. I will not deny that there are equally good buys in Minolta or other makes, but not with the great glass of this lens. Minolta sold it with a hard black circular leather case, which they did with their best white and G lenses only. It has its quirks and being a 'secret handshake' is a myth. I am not saying that Zeiss did not have a hand in its design (I do not know) but Minolta did not hand it out free to special customers with a secret handshake, what nonsense!!! It was a very expensive lens in its day and Minolta needed the money to stay competitive with the two big boys. 
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 17, 2017, 05:46:58 AM
Charles, my front element rotates. Always has.

Maybe it's a different lens?
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: Faldrax on August 17, 2017, 01:05:34 PM
Charles, my front element rotates. Always has.

Maybe it's a different lens?

According to the Dyxum lens database, the front element rotates when Zooming, but not when Focussing.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: AScot on August 17, 2017, 03:02:05 PM
That is correct guys. You focus after you zoom then set your polarizer etc after you have attained focus. Why does it matter if the front element turns when zooming. That's why it is called Internal focusing, not internal zooming.
Title: Re: Looking For Minolta Maxxum Zoom AF Lens For Sony A99
Post by: CHOLLY on August 17, 2017, 07:54:55 PM
OK... I feel better now!

I thought I had a faulty lens.....