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Body or lens dilemma
« on: November 19, 2016, 10:08:30 PM »
I have managed to acquire some funds and have allowed my self £500 max to buy new gear.

I have the following ( Second hand )options.

1). Sony A77  for £399
2). Sony 70-300 G original for £449
3). Sony 500mm mirror lens for £449, we already have one, but it would save having to take turns using it
4). Possible purchase of a ( non G or RS model ) Minolta 85mm f1.4, advertised for £549, but hope to talk them down to £500

thanks in advance
 
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2016, 05:25:55 PM »
1st choice Minolta 85mm f1.4 and second choice Sony 70-300G. It depends also what is your photography style
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2016, 09:21:59 PM »
Thanks Rex, I have always wanted fast primes, and the 85mm is at the top of my list, but the 70-300 G is too replace my Tamron 70-300.

I thought the 85mm was not a G or RS version as from the pics I have seen don't help, but after looking on the Dyxum data base at all 3, it may well be.

Maybe some one here could help?



If it is a G or RS, then I may just go for it......
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 10:19:27 PM »
Gordon Normally one would go for a good lens but the A77 would give you a step change in your photography over your A700 so this gets my vote...john
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2016, 05:13:55 AM »
Definitely from picture is G lens and if picture is correct then an RS

 G -    http://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/onelens.php?id=af85f14d
 G RS-http://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/onelens.php?id=af85f14g
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2016, 06:43:16 AM »
Definitely from picture is G lens and if picture is correct then an RS

 G -    http://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/onelens.php?id=af85f14d
 G RS-http://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/onelens.php?id=af85f14g

thanks Rex, hopefully he uses pictures of the item concerned and not a stock picture
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2016, 10:16:23 AM »
I have the 85 f/1.4 G RS, and it is a fantastic lens.

The only slight downside is that is is screw drive (rather than SSM), so not silent in operation, but the images it can produce are worth it!
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2016, 06:21:11 PM »
^^^AGREED!!!

BTW, that 85mm f/1.4 seems to be the pick of the litter IF it is in good to excellent condition.

The images are OUTSTANDING on nearly ANY A mount platform Gordon.

But John makes an EXCELLENT point also.

Gordon, you and the Mrs. know what type of photography you enjoy most. The 70-300mm would be great for your Aviation and birding, and the A77 really WILL give you another level up in both image quality and flexibility with either type.

The 500mm as you said, would be redundant. And the primary strength of the 85mm is portraiture, though it can be used effectively for other things.

If I were in shoes similar to yours... knowing your situation and what you like... I would purchase in this order:

1) 70-300mm G
2) A77
3) 85mm G
4) 500mm

... with VERY little space between choices 1 & 2.

GOOD LUCK SIR!!!
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2016, 09:04:49 PM »
Thanks for the replies guys.........

I have taken the plunge and ordered the 70-300 G, hopefully it should be here in 2 days, as I see that it will get more use at the moment.

I hope to get more funds from the same source in the near future, and if the amount is generous, the A77 and 85mm are definitely on the cards................

A700, VG-C70AM, Sony 50mm f1.4,SAL1870, Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM, A350,A550,3600HSD, Minolta 135, 500 Reflex, Sigma 10-20,  Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 XR Di-II LD ASP IF, Sigma 400, Tamron 90, ,Nissin Di866 MKII,Interfit 150w 2 head kit, Giottos MTL9351B/MH5011
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2016, 01:08:46 PM »
Enjoy the 70-300G - it's a lens that I used a lot and was very happy with, but now use less as I tend to opt for the Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 or 150-600 instead (depending on need for reach).

I'm still keeping my 70-300G though, as it is smaller, lighter and less obtrusive than either of the Tamrons, so better suited to a more 'casual' photo excursion if there is plenty of light.

It is difficult to explain to white mice that black cats are lucky...

2 x A900/VG, A6000
CZ 16-35 f/2.8, Sigma 24-70 f/2.8 HSM, Tamron 70-200 f/2.8 Di USD, Sony 70-300G,
Tamron 150-600, Sony 50 f1.4, Minolta 85 f1.4 G RS, Sony 100 f2.8 Macro
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2016, 10:07:37 PM »
got the lens today, its is great condition.....

Feels solid and heavy, looks great on the A700 with battery grip, going to use it in anger for the first time this weekend.............

results to follow

thanks for the advice everyone
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2016, 06:44:57 AM »
I also have a 70-300G Gordon and used it on A700 and use it on the A99..... john
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2016, 05:19:50 PM »
Thanks John, my A700 is nine years old at the end of January and still going strong, and has never let me down...

Looking forward to trying it out on the A77ii, when I get one that is
A700, VG-C70AM, Sony 50mm f1.4,SAL1870, Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM, A350,A550,3600HSD, Minolta 135, 500 Reflex, Sigma 10-20,  Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 XR Di-II LD ASP IF, Sigma 400, Tamron 90, ,Nissin Di866 MKII,Interfit 150w 2 head kit, Giottos MTL9351B/MH5011
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2016, 09:44:32 PM »
Had my first outing with the 70-300G last weekend, boy its great,(pictures to follow), I have now had a little extra money come my way, and I am looking at getting an A77 second hand for £299, I cant quite stretch to the A77ii which I would dearly love.

How does the A77 and the 70-300G perform together?

thanks in advance
A700, VG-C70AM, Sony 50mm f1.4,SAL1870, Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM, A350,A550,3600HSD, Minolta 135, 500 Reflex, Sigma 10-20,  Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 XR Di-II LD ASP IF, Sigma 400, Tamron 90, ,Nissin Di866 MKII,Interfit 150w 2 head kit, Giottos MTL9351B/MH5011
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Re: Body or lens dilemma
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2016, 06:49:46 AM »
You will enjoy the reach. Fast focus too as long as the light is good....
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