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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2016, 09:44:24 AM »
John, I have an A6000 as well as my A900's, and have also used an A99 for a short time (~15 minutes).

While I like the fact that I can see the effect of exposure compensation, etc in the EVF of the A6000, I still prefer the A900 as I feel more 'connected' with the scene using the OVF vs the EVF - it's difficult to describe precisely, but I am still aware that I am looking at a screen with the A6000 (and when I tried the A99 and previously A77).

It's partly the ergonomics of the A900 - but I find it no more distracting to move the A900 away from my eye to adjust WB, ISO, etc. than I do to use the buttons on the A6000 and change things while looking through the viewfinder - I'm still switching from looking at the screen to looking at the settings.

I am hoping that the higher resolution screen on the A99II will help make it seem more 'real', and the advantages of the higher resolution (more capability to crop), higher ISO (the only real weakness of the A900) and articulated screen (I use this only occasionally on my A6000, but it has much more limited articulation) will outweigh and feelign of 'disconnection'.

Note: I have focus peaking / highlights switched OFF on my A6000, as I didn't get on with it - it's another thing that a higher resolution EVF may cure.
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2016, 08:27:18 AM »
From Sony at photokina,,,

when the hybrid AF system is activate then the 79 AF PDAF sensors detect subject horizontal and the 399 PDAF sensors detect subject in vertical. At the end the 79 sensor that overlapping they are cross sensors and you get 79 cross sensors.

What about the 15 PDAF points ? they are allready cross will they become dapple cross sensors like we have on a700 & a900 one in the middle ?
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2016, 01:31:48 AM »
No.

But you WILL have 79 cross type sensors in Hybrid AF mode... class leading performance to be sure.
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2016, 01:37:50 AM »
John, I have an A6000 as well as my A900's, and have also used an A99 for a short time (~15 minutes).

While I like the fact that I can see the effect of exposure compensation, etc in the EVF of the A6000, I still prefer the A900 as I feel more 'connected' with the scene using the OVF vs the EVF - it's difficult to describe precisely, but I am still aware that I am looking at a screen with the A6000 (and when I tried the A99 and previously A77).

It's partly the ergonomics of the A900 - but I find it no more distracting to move the A900 away from my eye to adjust WB, ISO, etc. than I do to use the buttons on the A6000 and change things while looking through the viewfinder - I'm still switching from looking at the screen to looking at the settings.

I am hoping that the higher resolution screen on the A99II will help make it seem more 'real', and the advantages of the higher resolution (more capability to crop), higher ISO (the only real weakness of the A900) and articulated screen (I use this only occasionally on my A6000, but it has much more limited articulation) will outweigh and feelign of 'disconnection'.

Note: I have focus peaking / highlights switched OFF on my A6000, as I didn't get on with it - it's another thing that a higher resolution EVF may cure.

The EVF in the A77II/A7xII/A6300/RX100IV/RX1RII and A99II is the latest generation and the refresh rate is EXTREMELY fast. It is bright, presents the entire view, and is crystal clear.

I will have an EXTREMELY hard time going back to an OVF. When I break out my 35mm Minolta for landscapes it leaves me wondering how we did it "back then."
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2016, 09:00:56 AM »
Thanks CHOLLY for the clarification.

Not good new for us we would like think of buying a99II.On DPreview they tested Canon 5DIV and the focus system iRT is not reliable plus many other negatives and is ranked below Sony A 7Rii. So for the moment no way  for Sony to reduce price. The only hope for a better price is when a Nikon D800/900 comes out at a lower price or a new Canon 6DII also at lower price and better specification that Sony feel the pressure and reduce the price. And i think the R & D for a99II was not so costly as the a99I. This is my hope that Sony will have the chance even when the competitors answer with new model Sony will have the chance to reduce price and still be the favorite for many photographer.

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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #20 on: September 29, 2016, 10:24:24 AM »
The EVF's in the A77II/A7xII/A6300/RX100IV/RX1RII and A99II is the latest generation and the refresh rate is EXTREMELY fast. It is bright, presents the entire view, and is crystal clear.

I will have an EXTREMELY hard time going back to an OVF. When I break out my 35mm Minolta for landscapes it leaves me wondering how we did it "back then."

That is what I am hoping to find when I try one - for me, I find the A6000 EVF is perfectly usable, and a fair proportion of the time looks 'real', just not always. I had a similar experience with the A99 and A77 (both Mk I versions). 

The A99II EVF is certainly higher spec, so I'm hoping it tips the balance from 'sometimes better, sometimes worse' to 'always equal or better then OVF'.

Just need to wait until sometime after November to get one to try :)
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #21 on: September 29, 2016, 02:14:56 PM »
Thanks CHOLLY for the clarification.

Not good new for us we would like think of buying a99II.On DPreview they tested Canon 5DIV and the focus system iRT is not reliable plus many other negatives and is ranked below Sony A 7Rii. So for the moment no way  for Sony to reduce price. The only hope for a better price is when a Nikon D800/900 comes out at a lower price or a new Canon 6DII also at lower price and better specification that Sony feel the pressure and reduce the price. And i think the R & D for a99II was not so costly as the a99I. This is my hope that Sony will have the chance even when the competitors answer with new model Sony will have the chance to reduce price and still be the favorite for many photographer.

Sensor from a7Rii
Focus from a77II & a7Rii
Economics and body from a77/ii & a99
Battery grip from a77/II






REX, my fear is that Sony will keep the price of the A99II exactly where it is because of the cameras performance.

I'm betting that when it is tested it will exceed almost ALL other cameras except the A7RII in image quality tests and all but the top two pro cameras from canikon in every other category.

This means Sony won't be pressured to drop the price, as they will consider it equal to the A7RII and we see how they have not moved that price tag in 2 years!!
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Re: A99 ii announced
« Reply #22 on: September 29, 2016, 02:19:04 PM »
The EVF's in the A77II/A7xII/A6300/RX100IV/RX1RII and A99II is the latest generation and the refresh rate is EXTREMELY fast. It is bright, presents the entire view, and is crystal clear.

I will have an EXTREMELY hard time going back to an OVF. When I break out my 35mm Minolta for landscapes it leaves me wondering how we did it "back then."

That is what I am hoping to find when I try one - for me, I find the A6000 EVF is perfectly usable, and a fair proportion of the time looks 'real', just not always. I had a similar experience with the A99 and A77 (both Mk I versions). 

The A99II EVF is certainly higher spec, so I'm hoping it tips the balance from 'sometimes better, sometimes worse' to 'always equal or better then OVF'.

Just need to wait until sometime after November to get one to try :)

The funny thing is, Sony deliberately used a lower resolution EVF in the A6000 as a way to keep the price point low enough to create interest and attract droves of canikon users to the E mount platform.

The EVF in the A99II is much faster... so fast in fact, that if you limit the burst rate to 8fps, you see a REAL TIME VIEW of what's coming into the lens, just like the A6300. With full AF and AE!! Which is SPECTACULAR to say the least.

I can't wait for the camera to hit the stores.....
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