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Offline philwjones

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A77 ii and Lightroom
« on: June 04, 2014, 07:09:31 PM »
Hi - just taken delivery of my new A77ii (took the plunge) - very nice, but the RAW isn't being read by LR4.4 - any ideas if LR5 supports RAW from A77ii ?

I've checked online, but can't find much info.

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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2014, 08:17:41 PM »
Have you contacted SONY support on this? I'm considering the MkII... but also wondering about the a99 - which I can't find listed on the SONY UK website store so the "discontinued" rumour/s could be correct :(

I don't have the a77 MkII so can't answer your question. I do have LR 5.4 (recent update) and could try to open a RAW file from you to see if you want to try that way.

If so then send me a PM and I'll be in touch with my email address.
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2014, 08:45:23 PM »
As far as I know is still not available maybe with LR 5.4 . I have also 4.4 and I must also update to 5.3 for now to read A6000 RAW files
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2014, 08:50:44 PM »
Just found the answer on the Adobe feedback site - a few people have asked and the support people are saying "We're working on it. Sometime later this month." - so there we go.

I guess I'll put the camera into RAW+JPEG in the interim and that'll at least give me a chance to learn its features (which seem very nice so far).  I suppose this is the price paid for being an early adoptor
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2014, 12:54:33 AM »
And you beat Rex !  He is usually the one with all the new kit....john
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2014, 01:53:35 AM »
Just found the answer on the Adobe feedback site - a few people have asked and the support people are saying "We're working on it. Sometime later this month." - so there we go.

I guess I'll put the camera into RAW+JPEG in the interim and that'll at least give me a chance to learn its features (which seem very nice so far).  I suppose this is the price paid for being an early adoptor

Was Sony Image Data Converter shipped with the camera?
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 05:43:49 AM »
chappo1 - I think this is the earliest I've ever been on board for a new bit of tech in any arena!

CHOLLY - no software shipped, but a load of download links in the manual.

Apparently, using exiftool to change the camera model to SLT-A77 will fool Lightroom into accepting it  - I'll see about testing that tonight ( http://seeraeuberphoto.wordpress.com/2014/05/29/how-to-convince-photoshop-cs5-to-process-sony-%CE%B177-ii-ilca-77m2-raw-arw-files/ )

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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2014, 09:43:49 AM »
I'd be interested in hearing how the MkII handles the 'noise' levels. I for one am not happy with the way the a77 (MkI) does - or doesn't :(

Good luck in finding the work around for Lightroom and hope it works for you :)
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2014, 01:41:49 PM »
^^^In pseudo-scientific side-by-side tests between the A77 and D5200, D7100, 70D, 6D, and 7D, my A77 noise levels APPEAR to be on par with the APS-C cameras, all of which are well behind the full frame Canon.

According to DxOMARK the A77II scores 2/3 of a stop better in low light performance than the original, which means the multi-frame noise reduction feature should be even better.

The addition of 79 AF points alone is enough for me to take the plunge and buy the new model; I'm saving up now. ;)
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2014, 01:58:08 PM »
Thanks for that information Cholly. Tempted... but waiting a while...
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2014, 01:29:23 AM »
Frank, I work with a combination of physicists and engineers. These guys DREAM about experiments.

We have an informal photo club and everyone loves to brag about their gear.

When all I had was an A350 I had to keep my mouth shut. NOT ANYMORE!!! :lol:
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2014, 06:07:04 PM »
My impressions after a day or so.

The panorama function is great - a few 'jagged lines' on joins which are probably down to my tracking or a bit of parallax (not noticable to the casual viewer) , but haven't tried it using a tripod.  I'm a bit of a stitch pano nut, so I don't think I'll be letting go of that, but it's a nice quickie feature.

Tried the Wi-Fi stuff today - loading files to pc via WiFi worked really well but was a tad draining on the battery, but the ability to connect iphone to camera directly using WiFi (and no router) to transfer photos (and subsequently text/upload to the web when out in the field) is a really useful feature.

Still trying to get the hang of the focus points.  I've checked out the youtube video demo posted a few days back, but getting it to grab the right point is a bind for me at the mo - but it's my learning curve not the camera.

The noise levels in RAW are a great - but once I've tried it in a gig environment I'll be happier (I take photos of my wife's band).

Messing with the burst shooting - took a few pics of birds flying using this and they were mostly great (me again for the 'mostly' bit) - will be interesting to use this in a sporting environment (I take cycling photos) - hopefully when the National Time Trial happens the end of this month, I'll put this to good use.

CHOLLY - you're right - a massive improvement on the A350.  Picture quality is excellent and the features are a bonus.

Oh - and the Lightroom exiftool hack worked nicely - I've kept the originals though and will replace the hacked arw files once Adobe get their act together.
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2014, 09:14:58 PM »
COOL!!!

BTW, it was Sony that changed ARW file format at the LAST moment with the release of this camera. >:(

I am saving for myA77II right now... should have enough to buy it before the end of September. :D
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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2014, 08:13:12 PM »
Adobe DNG converter 8.5 is out and has A77ii support - so an 'Official' way of loading into Lightroom now....

http://www.adobe.com/support/downloads/thankyou.jsp?ftpID=5794&fileID=5821

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Re: A77 ii and Lightroom
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2014, 04:41:36 AM »
Even better!
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