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Posting again after many days. I had a first try this week at working with an IR filter (Hoya 72) and the 35-70 f4.

Not very happy with the results but I am trying to understand how to make it work.

Looking specifically for feedback on how to pp when my only tool is iphoto. Any other comments are very welcome.


Exif Information:
1:30pm local, Shutter 30 sec / f22 , Exposure +.70


Exif Information:5:29pm local, shutter 1/80 f/9,


Exif Information : 5:30pm local, shutter 1/30, f9, Exposure +.70

The second one looks pretty O.K. to me but than I guess we have to wait for Rob- he is the IR specialist. He might be able to give you some hints and tips.
I know he posted a long answer to my questions re IR at some point but need to dig a bit before I can send you the link.
Stef.

Id say that the second one is slightly overexposed as well, looking at how little detail there is in the sky, that or you were shooting into the sun. It also depends on what time of day it was taken as the strength of IR changes.
Can you post the shutter speed times and where the sun was in relation to you when you were taking the images.
One of the things i found best when shooting IR is that it was always better to shoot with the sun over my shoulder, and the worst results are when shooting straight at the sun or with it just off to either side of straight in front of you.

Out of camera images will look quite flat and will need processing. I wrote a tutorial http://www.dynaxdigital.com/taking-photos/a-guide-to-infrared-photography/ but this is for PS, so cant comment on what features iphoto has.

If there are any specific questions please ask and i will try to help.


Rob

I added the exif info to the pictures. I don't recall the sun position (so will check tomorrow), but I can tell you was that the first location is perpendicular to the second.  I have to say that the sun was position for the second and third was in front, but I may be wrong.

Also it was a cloudless day.

I did look at the PS sticky, but I couldn't figure out how to make the different layers to work out. What I did do, was to turn the pictures into b/w.

I will try again this week and post better images. Probably will be a tad boring but that is what I need to try and understand the process.

Thanks for the input! 

Rob, Stef, team,

Hoping I am able to get some additional advice from you. I went ahead and took another shot into IR. Same place.

Exif information for IR photo is Shutter 8 seconds / f9.0 FL 60mm (A300 no eV compensation). Taken around noon and sun was barely on the back of my head. (Sun would move left to right in a diagonal motion)

Original IR



Adjusting Tone & Temp in Iphoto

The question for this step if I understood correctly your guide is to have all the channels around the same zone (thus Tone may need to be moved to the left, while temp to the right) As much as I wanted, I couldn't make all the zone move to the left

Your next step was to apply a B&W layer. I don't have that ability in Iphoto, so I just did B&W conversion

You had something in your writing about WhiteBalance but couldn't figure out how to work that out (or how to get to it in iphoto). Hence, don't know how it would affect the picture.

Here is the last step which was adjusting the levels contrast and saturation to try and bring in as much detail as possible


Looking at the end result how did I do? I can tell you that I do like the process that I went through as now the picture is indeed pleasing to the eye. Where do you think I can improve?

Here is the same picture taken in auto and with full colours.


Again all comments welcome.

Now I have to go in and see how you did the colour treatment and see which one I like best. But for the life of me I kind of feel that IR against nature just feel better with a B&W treatment?

As usual C&C are welcome

I,m no expert by any means but I wonder what part of the picture are you trying to get across to the viewer---The path takes you completely away from the lake and to be honest I want to see more of the lake and feel it has been cropped or framed in the wrong place.I hope this is taken in the right vein I have never ever criticised images before but this scene had me asking for more and I would really like to have seen more of the lake --I am perhaps biased as well because being a fisherman the lake looks really appealing!!!!!!

Good comments and do get it. Right now I wasn't worried about composition but more into how do I make IR work and how do I make it fit into a workflow with just iphoto.  From my view I wanted to have as many objects in view as possible to understan dthe effect of IR. For the life of me, I still like to see the grass look and feel as snow. For me it was the tree that attracted mee and wanted to have my full attention.

That is the view I have everyday at lunch.

Cheers.

ps: no offense taken, I will try again at a different angle to bring in the pond.

The second image is alot better and the colours in the sky and the exposure are very good.
Because i dont know what you can do in iphoto, its difficult to say how to improve the image to what you have.
Does the software have adjustment layers at all and can you work on raw images in it, or is it the jpegs


Rob

Unfortunatedly iPhoto doesn't do layers. And I am not confident enough to work RAW. Thus I am a jpg shooter.

Thanks for the info