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Offline Clive

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Tripod questions
« on: November 17, 2011, 06:06:38 PM »
My SIL emailed me and she wants to buy a nice tripod for her hubby..my wife's bro. He uses a Nikon DSLR and does well. He's asked for a carbon fiber tripod with no center column like the Gitzos here.

Apparently these fold down tight and are lightweight. Fine, but I like a center post AND these are very expensive tripods.

He currently has a Manfrotto head like this. I am thinking that sideways head may not turn properly on the flat Gitzo mounting platform without a center post. (I am assuming the threads will be compatible.)

Comments welcome on
- the need for a center post or not.
- compatibility of the Gitzo tripod and a Manfrotto head as shown. Will they work together?

Thanks to subbu68 for hyis recent tripod posts.

Thanks for your tripod comments.

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2011, 09:12:21 PM »
Clive, I have the same head, but use it on a monopod. It does work on any kind of tripod as well. It is a kind of ball head and can be fixed to pretty much any screw.
Does he need a center column? Not necessarily, as long as he is happy with lowest shooting height of 11cm. If he needs to have it lower or wants to shoot vertically (!) down then he might need to get the accessory lateral arm. In a nutshell: with this set up he can not photograph anything from the top down (i.e. making copies of photographs)
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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2011, 10:46:11 PM »
Clive,
I also have the RC322 it fits and works on my Giottos 9361B tripod and occasionally gets used on my monopod too. It is a ball head as Stef says, but with a grip release/adjust mechanism, which is very quick and simple to adjust.     
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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 12:46:59 AM »
Thanks both.

"It does work on any kind of tripod as well." Good to know. I was not sure...the flat head on that Gitzo look like it might interfere

I did some looking this afternoon and this Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 3-Section PRO tripod seems to fit the bill without breaking the bank.

Near as I can tell my BIL does not want the center post because it interferes with getting the camera low for wildflower shots. BUT that is overcome by the newer tripods like this one.

One reference about the Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 3-Section PRO tripod states:
I ... take mostly nature shots: wildflowers, birds, other animals, and landscapes. I need something solid, but light enough to carry on hikes. I did quite a bit of research online and asked friends who are photographers. What I heard was ... go with carbon fiber because of the weight/strength ratio. Look for one with a that you can use to get really low shots, plus you but don't have to stoop so much when shooting landscapes. This tripod fit the bill.

Vistek is a "nearby" dealer, so my SIL can call them and have it shipped.

If anyone has comments on the Manfrotto 190CXPRO3 3-Section PRO tripod, please feel free. ;)

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 09:03:36 AM »
Clive, I have the aluminium version (190xProB) - same mechanism, but aluminium rather than CF (and priced accordingly :)

I have been very happy with it - it's very easy to shift the centre column to horizontal.

However - when it is horizontal, the head is 'sideways' - which can make adjustment difficult (but I am using a 3-way head, rather than a ball head).

Note that the more basic 190Cx3 (which does not have the 'rotating' centre column) has a 'low angle adaptor' which can be used as a short column, and has a minimum height of 6cm - 2cm lower than the 190CxProb.

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 09:29:08 PM »
I have the Manfrotto 055PROB tripod and 410 Geared Head
The only thing i would say is be careful when shooting extremely low down as like faldrax says, "However - when it is horizontal, the head is 'sideways' - which can make adjustment difficult"
I also find this and it can be difficult to frame pictures in 'landscape' orientation as the head runs out of movement and the camera is at an agle still rather than being flat.


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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 01:33:37 PM »
Clive,

My tripod is NOT lightweight by most people's standards, but it handles anything I attach to it and really, it is not a burden for me to carry.  My combo is a Giottos MTL-9271B shown here: http://www.giottos.com/ and the heavy duty MH-3300 ball head shown here: http://www.giottos.com/MH-3.htm

The specs are not great...it is not really lightweight, it can't get really low and it is not tiny when folded.  On the other hand, it is rock solid in all situations with my a700 and 70-200G, even with a large flash attached.  With the center column all the way down, my a700 is nearly right at eye height for me (I am 6'-1" in bare feet).  This makes it incredibly stable.

The best part is that it is much less expensive than Manfrotto and insanely cheap compared to Gitzo.  Mine is well finished and the ball head is smooth.  I have no burrs or sharp metal points that I have seen others complain about in old reviews.  Mine is best described as "silky smooth".

Just my opinion!

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2011, 11:14:49 AM »
I have the Giottos MTL9351B with the MH5011 head, I find it very sturdy and suits my needs very well, and all for less than £100 at the end of last year.



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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 02:52:45 PM »
Hi i just got a tripod and also can detach it to a monopod and also come wif a nice ball head from Gmarket but is design in korea but made in china
here the link got fr nice tripod over there too  do take alook maybe it might help u

http://list.gmarket.com.sg/item/HORUSBENNU-HORUSBENNU-988TT-TRAVELER-SLR-DSLR/404025919


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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 08:03:07 PM »
Well I have a very old Manfrotto aluminum tripod that is not particularly light, does not have a horizontal position for the center column and does not have quick release for the legs, nor does it have foam around the legs to keep your hands from sticking to the aluminum during freezing weather (I solved that with black foam pipe insulation and some double sided tape). It does however have one useful feature, the center column can be easily remove and reinserted upside down, thereby allowing the camera to reach the ground or any position in between, albeit upside down or vertical.

I must admit that when used in the upside down position I increasingly find it very difficult to get myself down to that level and I may not be able to get back up again. :D  Perhaps that would be a very good excuse for getting an a77.
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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #10 on: November 21, 2011, 08:51:14 PM »
I'm using a Cullman 4155 tripod with the center, fourth, leg. Very stable, weights only about 2,5 kg with ball head (Cullman 40190). The spec says it has a load capacity of 7.5 kg.

Pretty often I do not use the lowest, thinnest section, with makes it more sturdy and still high enough for my usage.

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2011, 04:47:32 PM »
Thanks to all for your help. I will pass this along to my SIL.

For reasons still not clear, my BIL does not want a center post. I need to ask him somehow.

I own several tripods..including a couple of sturdy mini pods for low level work...which persoanlly I htink is the way to go for ground-level subjects. My main tripod is a 20-yr-old Manfrotto with two heads. (Weights not much more that a Great Dane dog...it has kept me trim all these years. Kidding. I ain't trim at all. ;) ) As AScot, I wrapped the legs with insulating foam ... easier to carry in cold weather and to put on your shoulder.

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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2011, 09:37:07 PM »
Am I too late?  Somehow this just popped up.  We were in the wild west and not looking at dynaxdigital when you started the thread.
Mrs C has the exact carbon fibre Manfrotto (and I am not jealous....I am not jealous.....).  I have the 322 head on my aluminium version and am very happy with it.  Wendy opted to have my old 222 head as it is (claimed by the new owner) to be easier to manipulate.  The advantage of the 322 over the 222 is when, orienting into the portrait mode, the weight of the camera and lens is closer to the centre of gravity. 
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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2011, 01:12:34 AM »
I use a Adorama flashpoint f1228. Rated for 17.6 lbs and is around $170 usd. I also have their f3 ball head, again rated for 17.6 lbs, it was around $65 but it's very sturdy holding my a900, battery grip and my tamron 70-200 2.8.  For my tripod needs, it's a nice combo and it's very sturdy.
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Re: Tripod questions
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2012, 08:25:59 AM »
Since I have numerously gone through the experience of shopping for tripods and have seen others do the same, let me tell you what many photographers end up doing. They first look for the cheapest tripod available that will be good enough to hold the first DSLR, since they have no idea if they really need it or do not know how often they would be using it. The tripod would cost between $75 and $150 for legs and head, which is a good price for a simple tool. Next, they purchase a longer and heavier lens and add more weight to the setup. All of a sudden, they find that the cheap tripod is not good enough and they need something more durable and stable.

After making the first mistake, they suddenly realize that they need to do more research and they spend countless hours reading about tripods on different websites and forums. Despite all recommendations from the pros, they are not willing to invest on a top-of-the-line tripod with a good ball-head, so they end up getting a popular tripod system for $300-500 with a separate head. Seems like a great investment and the tripod seems to be much better than the previous one. After a year or two they realize that their last purchase was not that good, because the tripod is too heavy and hard to use, especially for traveling. They realize that they should have listened to the pros in the beginning and bought a good tripod system. Does this sound familiar? It certainly does for me, because I went through a similar experience and wasted too much effort and money.

Other photographers might have a different story, where they purchased an inexpensive tripod they like in the beginning and they are still happily using it today. All it says about them, is that they are not using their tripods as much and what they have is good enough for occasional use. Anybody who heavily relies on a tripod (especially landscape and architectural photographers) ends up buying two to three different tripods to eventually end up with the best.