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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2016, 07:11:39 PM »
That would suggest that it is the camera and not the lens/lenses then?

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2016, 09:45:16 PM »
Have been offered a replacement camera as my first enquiries into my problem were well within the 30 day guarantee. Have accepted this and await a new body with my fingers crossed it is a resolution to the problem. My 16-35mm has still not returned as of yet though.

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2016, 11:13:11 PM »
At least some good news Chris.   Given your testing I would be surprised if this body was any different but one can hope and I know thatyou will update us on how this goes...john
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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #33 on: April 26, 2016, 06:37:50 PM »
 As suspected the new body displays the exact same behaviour when used with slot in type filters but does not hunt with the FE lens in AF-C mode. No idea what i'm gonna do but i need to find some sort of work around.
 My 16-35mm lens returned also and when looking through the rear element there are a number of spots within the lens, cannot be seen from the front elements. Given i lost all the images of it had had taken before sending off i'll just have to see how it goes till i can replace it. Or sell everything and find a new hobby!!

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2016, 08:53:43 PM »
Don't find a new hobby, you were doing so well and we enjoyed looking at your great photos, Please don't start making us look at your needlework or paper mache dolls. :D

At least now you have solved the problem. It is not the camera, it is an incompatibility of the Lee system with the A7RII camera  (Possibly something to do with the removal of the anti-something filter in front of the sensor). The fact is that you only really need speciality filters like Neutral density, grads, polarized or infra-red (if you get into that). You do not need any other type of glass between your subject and your superior sensor. Use the Lee system on any other camera you have and spend a little more (comparatively) on quality round screw in filters (Hoya or B+W). To me that is the only workaround I would consider If I was fortunate enough to own the Sony A7RII. You can't go and buy a Canon or Nikon + lenses and get the same fantastic photos that the Professionals (and you) are now getting with the Sony full frame cameras. I admit that in the end it is the photographer that takes the picture, not the camera, however the camera sure helps a lot.
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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #35 on: April 26, 2016, 10:26:05 PM »
Thanks Charles, I would really struggle to drop all my gear and give up on photography however frustrating it is at the moment. A few options open to me are the Lee polariser to see if that works but i can't see it and the Wide angle shade/ hood thing for attaching to the Lee holder. That is very expensive so i may well have to fabricate my own cheapo version.
 I may look into a few various strength nd screw in type filters for LE stuff if i can't get anywhere with the other options.

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2016, 05:00:57 AM »
I agree, do not give it away.  If you get the irrits (new word) with Sony, join a camera club and go out shooting with whatever others use and see if a move to the other side would satisfy you.
No one camera can be the best at everything and it is a mater of finding a compromise that works for you.

We are quite accommodating and provided you do not keep extolling the virtues of camera brand X when you you post an image, none of us would know what it was shot with...john
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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #37 on: July 18, 2016, 06:18:13 PM »
 I know it's been a while but i seem to now be able to get useable shots with this replacement body and lens. It may not be perfect as there are some situations where i can induce the same problems experienced with the 1st body but not to the same extent. It appears after all my testing and head scratching that the lack of mirror or AA filter may well be what is causing the issue.
 The 1st body was sent to Sony for repair/ refurbishment. They contacted me to say they had received it and asked for some samples which i provided. Never heard back from them again.

I have posted some images from the new camera and i will continue to show others. Some of them will have the flare/ Semi circular reflection issue but it is much harder to notice and i have been able to repair it in many cases.

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #38 on: July 19, 2016, 12:32:28 AM »
Chris my guess would be that the Sony engineers will be pouring over the images and the body and, at some point in the future, a model will be released that solves the issue.  I doubt that they will even acknowledge that they have done it.
Good to see that you are back shooting....john
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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #39 on: July 19, 2016, 07:25:53 AM »
After a lot of head scratching then 6 weeks without thinking much about it having the pup i'm glad to be back at it and just want to get out at every opportunity i can.

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Re: Filters, lens or camera
« Reply #40 on: July 19, 2016, 07:08:30 PM »
It is not the camera, it is an incompatibility of the Lee system with the A7RII camera  (Possibly something to do with the removal of the anti-something filter in front of the sensor).

I still think this is the most likely cause of your problems. Sony will be very reluctant to admit this, however I have been following some Professionals who use this camera and they all love it and all take photographs similar to your style. None have mentioned flare problems, but then they do not use lee filters. some of them are into HDR and have no problems.

Anyway, more importantly, you seem to be more happy now and that is the main thing. I am a Fan of Pup/Dog photography, I hope you intend to dabble in that.
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