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By David from photoclub However, to use this function you must have more HVL-F58AM or HVL-F42AM guns. There is no provision on the older units (HVL-F36AM, HVL-F56AM, 3600HS-D, 5600HS-D) to define the flash in groups. It looks as if an on-camera HVL-F58M flash is classed as one group, with Remote and Remote2 as the other groups. The built-in pop up flash can not control the groups or ratios. To make full use of this system you are looking at a $1,000 investment in three flash heads. Paul Genge of Sony UK confirms that although the HVL-F42AM manual makes no reference to functions enabled by the 58 model, it can be used in ratio setups with the 58 as controller.