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Nice post,

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Nice post,

Does gadget infinity ship to australia?

oops, missed this post before - yes they do

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Hi can anyone offer me some advice about using a cheap YN 460 (£40 on eBay with Sony/Minolta adaptor) flash. I'm thinking of buying two YN-460 flashes to light the background in my home 'studio' and I want to ask if anyone knows if they will work wirelessly with my a700? I've got two F36-AMs which I'm using with brollys in wireless mode to light the subject. But I want a cheap option for lighting the background.

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ive used one of those little light sensor flash triggers in my studio (when i was desperate) and I do not rate them at all. They do not trigger the flash around 50% of the time.

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ive used one of those little light sensor flash triggers in my studio (when i was desperate) and I do not rate them at all. They do not trigger the flash around 50% of the time.

Mine fire my Minolta / Sony flash's fine at 1/30 - 1/100 but have found that standard hot shoe flash's sync'ing at 1/160 + missfire around 20% of the time.

Dave

Edit: I should probably add that I use them in addition to my CRT-301P's and Bowens kit with camera in 100% manual mode.
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Hello,

I'm working to a strobist kit and want to use my flash (HVL F56AM) remote,
Is it usefull (the hot shoe slave flash) or have you allready used better.
I was looking at cactus triggers and receivers.

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The hot shoe slaves are the cheapest version and I find teh absolutely great if you work in "normal" environments. If you need a radio trigger or similar than it's mostly for shooting around walls, very long distance or if there are other shooters who shoot at the same time as you do and they itnerfer with your set up by triggering oyur flash with their own. I never had the need myself to use my radio triggers and always use the slave cells.
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Agree with Stef, the Hot Shoe slaves are superb.

With regards to wireless/radio triggers, I would steer clear of the cactus PT04's, I had a set a year or so ago and they were rubbish, miss-firing, phantom fires and I kept having to switch them off and back on again.

Lookup the CTR-301P's and the RF-602's. I have the CTR's and they are superb. I am also looking at another set that 'Shot by Scott' mentioned on his blog, Pixel Soldier TF-373. They support everything the CTR's and RF's have but have channels to work with too.

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Agreed.

1. Slave cells are by far the cheapest option, and are perfectly good in most situations. They're only a problem if you have multiple shooters and only want your flash to go off for you and no one else, or if you have them hidden where the slave cell won't 'see' your triggering flash.

2. Cactus are not that reliable - less useful than slave cells in my view.

3. If you really want radio triggers, and don't want to spend a lot of time fighting with them, expect to spend money. I have an Elinchrom Skyport set (which were included with my higher end studio lights) which is excellent.

Because the skyport system is built into the BX-Ri and RX elinchrom lights (the receiver is included in the flash head), I tend to use that a lot, in combination with slave cells. That is, additional lights are triggered via slaves, rather than buying more skyport receivers.


Didi - no reason to go that far to trigger your 56, the slave cells mention in earlier posts and then other sticked Flash thread are still the way to go :)

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So,

If I understand correctly, I can use my Minolta 3600HS with an optical slave trigger and my Sony 56 in Wireles mode

and maybe a third flash (let say from canon) with an optical slave trigger on that as well?

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So,

If I understand correctly, I can use my Minolta 3600HS with an optical slave trigger and my Sony 56 in Wireles mode

and maybe a third flash (let say from canon) with an optical slave trigger on that as well?

thanks

.....and ANY other flash that you can get your hands on!!! Beware though: the slave cells for Sony flashes are different to other flashes because of the different hotshoe mount.
Each time I come across a cheap third party second hand flash for £10 or so I take it home with me! You can attach some whtie plastic bags over the flash and voila you have a softbox. Am off now shopping with a friend of mine who wants to set up a studio system for under $100. We will go to the local builders' shop and are going to buy some lamps that are used by builders for indoors. They get hot but if you install them safely- no big issue. perfect for lighting backgrounds!
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Hello,

I bought the hotshoe flash trigger, I can see the flash go off, but see no result on the picture, What am I doing wrong?

I'm using a 3500 XI, I took a picture together with the HVL-56AM, and I see the Sony flash in the picture, but not the Minolta,

so my question again, what is wrong?

Didi
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What shutter speed were you using ???


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Didi- I am not sure I understand your question? You are trying to trigger which flash with which? Please do explain the set up. You are saying: "I can see the flash go off" - which one? And then you are saying: "I see the Sony flash in the picture, but not the Minolta". I assume you are trying to trigger both flashes with the onboard flash? The more precisely you describe your set up - including wht you have set the flashes to on their back and what you set your menu to on your camera- the easier it is for us to give you perhaps a solution.
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Hey,

Yes, I tried to trigger the flash with the onboard flash, and by reading that, I thought, I might be making a mistake,
so I just tested and put my sony on the camera, the minolta with the slave trigger on it on his back and made a shot
from the flash, and it flashes on the picture, so it is ok now, that means, if I make pictures, I have to have a big
flash on my camera, so I need a third flash to get 3 sides flashed. thanks, I'm going to make a snoot and a grid now,
to experiment further.

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