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Minolta 7D with flash 3600 HS D and bouncer problems!!!
« on: November 20, 2005, 02:41:00 PM »
:? I have a KM 7D with flash 3600 HD-D with a bouncer (Stofen). The settings of my camera for the flash are fill-flash and TTL-preflash but he doesn't give a preflash ans some of my pictures are bad.
With my Z2 and the same flash it works (the preflash). Whats the problem of this or are there more setting that I must change :?: . The 3 lenses that a used are a Minolta 28-100, Tamron 18-200 an a Sigma 135-400.

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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2005, 08:30:39 PM »
Is the flash older than the 7D (October 2004)? Are you really sure it is a 3600HS(D), or an older model without the "(D)"?

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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2005, 08:36:34 PM »
The 2500 that came with my 7D did not work (exposures all over the place) and I took it back for a new one which works well enough for the inexpensive flash. The 2500 seems to give more accurate exposures with the new Tamron lens than with my 15-year old Minolta 28-85mm.
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2005, 08:46:02 PM »
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The 2500 seems to give more accurate exposures with the new Tamron lens than with my 15-year old Minolta 28-85mm.


Probably because the new Tamron lens does ADI, while the old 28-85 does not.

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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2005, 08:52:24 PM »
My Flash is a 3600 HS-D that I buy in december 2002! Is it possible that the flash needs to be upgraded by Minolta???

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2005, 08:58:04 PM »
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Yes I believe you are correct. Works very well with the new lens--and it is about the only lens I need a flash for now. :)  

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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2005, 10:22:37 PM »
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My Flash is a 3600 HS-D that I buy in december 2002! Is it possible that the flash needs to be upgraded by Minolta???


As far as I know, the (D) series of flashes was not even available in December 2002. They were available a while before the 7D came out, but not two years. At least, I think so. This would mean you have a "normal" 3600HS, which is gravely incompatible with the 7D/5D.
I have never heard about any possibility to upgrade, as there is probably some hardware difference between the models.

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2005, 02:17:27 AM »
The Tamron SP 24-135mm, model 190D is not D compatible. The only Tamron SP zoom lenses that are compatible with ADI are the Sp 17-35mm, Sp 28-75mm and Sp 200-500mm plus the 90 and 180mm primes.

A D compatible lens is not required for TTL-preflash. Only when you set the camera on ADI Flash do you need a D lens.

I have the Minolta 5600HS(D) and the only essential difference between it and the 3600HS(D) is the guide number. It is very easy to see whether you have a D flash or not, there is a large D on the top of the strobe part. I have no problems with flash exposure, other than those that are my fault.

Hendrik, if you have a 3600HS(D) you will know it. Your camera settings are correct if you are using the flash on camera and not using a D lens. Make sure you are in A mode, I find this best. If you do not get good results and you are using good technique, the flash and/or the camera may have to be re-calibrated. I believe Konica Minolta will do this for free.

Good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2005, 04:00:53 AM »
AScot, I stand corrected. After I made that comment I was looking at the box today and no "D". I've used the flash (a bit) in ADI and TTL and it seems to be okay. But will ONLY use on TTL from now one. Clive
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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2005, 06:16:34 AM »
No problem Clive, I figured that the D in the model number may have confused you.  :D

The only D lens that I have owned was the Minolta 28-80mm Kit lens that came with my Film 5. On the film 7 it made the wonderful depth of field diagram function work, but the lens was so poor that I sold it. That depth of field function is one of the things that would have been great on the 7D.
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