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Offline alanr

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« on: March 29, 2005, 07:52:08 PM »
I'm after a wide angle lens, i currently have the following lenses

Minolta AF 35-80mm
Minolta AF 100-300mm
Minolta AF 500mm Reflex
Sigma AF 400mm Tele

I've been taking (trying to at least :oops: )a lot of landscapes recently and have found the 35-80mm wanting.

I'm thinking of getting the Tamron AF 19-35mm mainly for the price as i dont have a great deal to spend.

Does anyone have one? Or can someone else recommend one for around the similar price (£150)? I know its not a lot of money but i dont realy have a lot to play around with at the moment and write ups seem to be favourable about the Tamron.

Thanks in advance.
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2005, 10:35:00 PM »
Apparently the 19-35s are actually really quite good.  They get a very big thumbs up for perfromance/price.  And I think they are also all the same.  Just different brands.  Bit like Sigma make the Canon 14/2.8 prime!  And Tamron make the KonicaMinolta 17-35/2.8-4 & 28-75/2.8

The only difference in the several available 19-35s is the build.  if i am rigth then the specs should match.  Same number of lenses/groups.  And same aperture range.

Jessops - used.  Have a look at Jessops website for used, they will get a used lens into your nearest store and you have no obligation to buy.  Good to try, and you could get one of each make and then pick the one with the best feel.  Tokina tend to have a good name for SOLID build.  I'm sure the Tamron is jsut as good.  The cosina is very plastic.

 http://www.ffordes.com or http://www.mifsuds.co.uk or http://www.mxv.co.uk are bound to have a selection used (new?)

review:
http://www.fredmiranda.com/reviews/showproduct.php?product=250&sort=7&cat=43&page=1  .... good rating, not many reviewrs.


 :?: what do you think of your 500/8.  IS this very slow to AF?  In the right light, is this sharp?  I've heard that they are tough to use - but get it right and you can get stunning results (avaoiding the dougnuts)

Hope this helps?  The price step from the 19-35s to the new sexy Sigma EXs and the KM 17-35 really isn't that huge a leap.  The 19-35s are a bargain, often overlooked becuase people are put off by the low price :!:

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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 06:23:32 PM »
Hi,

Thanks for the links for the reviews.

The 500mm Reflex, i have found the AF to be slow at times when the light wasn't right, but once the subject is in focus and the light good i've never really had a problems whilst following a subject ( i used to do a lot of sport photography).

HTH
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2005, 10:18:55 PM »
Of the different wide-angle zooms I looked at, the Tokina 19-35 seemed by far the best value-for-money, so I got that one. In the reviews I read, it seemed better than the Tamron 19-35 (not to mention the Cosina/Soligor one), and far cheaper than the Tamron/KM 17-35 or any Sigma alternative (with, what it seemed from the reviews, equivalent performance).
I bought the Tokina (paid about ?240 for it, including the extra lens hood), and hasn't been the slightest bit unhappy with it.

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« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2005, 07:20:28 AM »
The Tamron 19-35mm is not very highly rated on the North American sites. One called it sub average. bear in mind that it is not an SP lens.
The Tamron SP 17- 35 on the other hand is very highly rated, but costs twice as much.
I own a SP 24-135 Tamron and with my Maxxum film 7, I found it was a superior lens. However, when I got my 7D the lens became a 36-202.5mm. It's still a superior lens but 36mm is not very wide, so I am looking for something else.
I do like the build quality of the Tamron SP lenses, so may opt for the SP 17-35mm.
I do not trust Sigma, they don't seem to do a good job with their chips, and you may have problems down the road when cameras change models. This has happened to me and Sigma wanted to charge more than the lens was worth, to re-chip it. I haven't read much about the Tokina's, so cannot comment.
The thing is, with the APS-C sensor on the 7D, it doesn't look like we will ever have a truly wide angle lens. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Sony A7, A850, A77, A700 || Sony>> 70-300G, 28-75 f2.8 SAM, 16-80CZ, 50 f1.4, FE 28-70 OSS, FE 24-70CZ f4 OSS, LA-EA4 || Minolta>> 300 f4 G HS, 200 f2.8 G HS, 100 f2.8 (D) Macro, 50 f1.7, 28 f2.8, 28-135 f4-4.5, 70-210 f4, 500 f8 Reflex, TC x 1.4 HS, TC x 2 HS. || Sigma 21-35 f3.5-4.2. || Tamron SP 24-135.

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« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2005, 08:27:15 AM »
The sigma 18-50 is looking good to me at the moment. Anyone know of any test data

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« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2005, 09:50:40 PM »
One test I read said "On the wide angle 18mm end of the zoom range, there is very noticeable barrel distortion"

More importantly, I have been unable to find this lens with Minolta mount, only Sigma, Canon, Nikon and Pentax. Could be a problem if you own a Minolta.  :!:
Sony A7, A850, A77, A700 || Sony>> 70-300G, 28-75 f2.8 SAM, 16-80CZ, 50 f1.4, FE 28-70 OSS, FE 24-70CZ f4 OSS, LA-EA4 || Minolta>> 300 f4 G HS, 200 f2.8 G HS, 100 f2.8 (D) Macro, 50 f1.7, 28 f2.8, 28-135 f4-4.5, 70-210 f4, 500 f8 Reflex, TC x 1.4 HS, TC x 2 HS. || Sigma 21-35 f3.5-4.2. || Tamron SP 24-135.

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2005, 08:06:14 PM »
They have one in Minolta mount in a camera shop near me. Well he said it was minalts and I could bring my camera round to set it.

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2005, 11:10:07 PM »
I would strongly advise you to try it on your camera first. Some of these camera salesmen/women know nothing about Minolta, only Canon and sometimes Nikon. It's possible they actually have an older version of that lens, and don't know the difference, or worse, don't care!

Sigma's USA/Canada website specifically state which cameras they make the lens for and it does not include Minolta. However, I wouldn't rule out that Sigma Europe have a Minolta version. You guys may be ahead of us over here, in that respect. I think Konica Minolta may be more popular in Europe and Asia than it is here. Just my Opinion.

Best of luck.  :D
Sony A7, A850, A77, A700 || Sony>> 70-300G, 28-75 f2.8 SAM, 16-80CZ, 50 f1.4, FE 28-70 OSS, FE 24-70CZ f4 OSS, LA-EA4 || Minolta>> 300 f4 G HS, 200 f2.8 G HS, 100 f2.8 (D) Macro, 50 f1.7, 28 f2.8, 28-135 f4-4.5, 70-210 f4, 500 f8 Reflex, TC x 1.4 HS, TC x 2 HS. || Sigma 21-35 f3.5-4.2. || Tamron SP 24-135.

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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 08:08:33 AM »
the 18-50/F3,5-5,6 DC Asp. is listed on the german sigma site as "C,ND,P,S,OFT,M" from the list of dc lenses only the  , 55-200/4-5,6 DC, 18-50/F2,8 EX DC Asp. IF,  18-125/F3,5-5,6 DC Asp. IF and   18-50/F3,5-5,6 DC Asp are listed in M or KM mount