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Robin- with some light!
« on: October 07, 2008, 04:04:49 PM »


These were all hand held.
 What a difference a bit of sun and light makes – the 700 was just that bit faster!

 I can understand why so many wildlife cameramen like to shoot in Africa.

This fellow had something to eat (typical semi-aggressive pose here)




Then looked a little like he didn’t know what to do



I wasn’t happy with that leaf covering his tail so I tried this crop…? not quite sure whether it works or can stand it?



Then he decided to sing in the hedges!
In a perfect world I would have avoided the leaf behind his head too……….

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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2008, 04:40:10 PM »
the first one is fantastic, really good! worthy of a competition entry I reckon!

i prefer the uncropped second/third one as the cropped one looks a little soft around the eye which is less evident in the uncropped one.

i reckon some PS work could remove the leaf in the last one too.... go on, be brave :D still a lovely image though
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2008, 04:42:16 PM »
The first one is just great,
The leaf in the second one is slightly off putting, and the last one, althoug the tail is hidden works well because of the angle the robin is at.

And yes, its so much easier when there is a bit of light, though thats been a rarity this year.


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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2008, 06:01:17 PM »
the first one is fantastic, really good! worthy of a competition entry I reckon!

i prefer the uncropped second/third one as the cropped one looks a little soft around the eye which is less evident in the uncropped one.

i reckon some PS work could remove the leaf in the last one too.... go on, be brave :D still a lovely image though

Well - it was my opinion that the eye didn't stand the close scrutiny on that one! I think the focussing was a little lower down on the feathers there.......;)

I tried cloning the leaf out when I was tired last night and it went horribly wrong........
Just now I used the magnetic lasso,inverted, used the clone tool and went right in to 'brush up'. When I was in there I discovered some chromatic aberrations on the back of the head that aren't as noticeable at normal veiwing.......... aarggg
 I should do what OH does - don't shoot with undesirable backgrounds and bin anything that needs too much work even if you end up with nothing! ;) ;)   I suppose getting fed up with fudging will make me shoot better.
I get so excited with my new camera though.......LOL LOL 

And that beak isn't quite right if you compare it..........

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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2008, 07:01:43 PM »
Excellent shots - no doubt about the detail in the bird when the light is good but it is always the eyes that sets the image. You will soon be leaving the camera behind in bad light conditions because the results are always dissappointing. Off to the south of France next week light there is good at this time of the year hope to get some shots of the local feathered friends.
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2008, 07:14:59 PM »
Yes- agree with the others- very nice set. Prefer the first one- stunning!
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2008, 07:36:34 PM »
Pretty hard to critique what are excellent images. The first is my favorite. not sure if you could get the eye any sharper as it must be in almost the same plane as the wing feathers, hard to tell without seeing the original.

I did try re-framing the first one and would suggest trying this, not necessarily better, just different. Remove a small amount from the right hand side. Remove most of the out of focus darker area (75%) at the bottom (not the lighter area) and remove some from the top to balance it all again. leave the left hand side as is. See what you think. :)
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2008, 08:09:02 PM »
Just tried that (before going out) and it looks better! I may have taken a tad too much off the top though.Thankyou Mr Ascot!
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2008, 09:20:27 PM »
Yes, too much off the top. :)
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #9 on: October 07, 2008, 09:37:11 PM »
Ooh Robin. The cropped image has lost a bit of sharpness. As has been said, it's not evident in the original. I dunno I quite like the leaf, makes it a bit more real..  Glad you like your camera. Keep going ! O0

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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #10 on: October 07, 2008, 10:11:30 PM »
hi pat sorry still trying to get around every one love the images 1 and 4 are my fave you've done a great job taking that leaf out and would agree ascot too much off the top id say put another 1/2 on top from head if u know what i mean it looks about 1 1/4" at the mo so say 1 3/4" to 2" sorry old school even thou i do work in mm but even so i still work in inshes from time to time, might try something with #2 with the tail don't know whether it can be done anyway great shots:) :) :) :)
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2008, 11:32:33 PM »
Really cracking set of photos!No.1 has it for me ,really hit the mark with that shot,colour,detail and DOF.
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Re: Robin- with some light!
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2008, 01:48:23 AM »
Nice birds shots. That one you've been working with is my fave...like the dark background.

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