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Offline BrianNZ

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Help - Advice required
« on: August 25, 2017, 08:15:11 AM »
hi all.    I am thinking of entering the below photo into our regional camera club competition,  but i am unsure what the bird is for a start, i suspect it is a welcome swallow,  perhaps Chappo may be able to advise as this photo was taken in Waranambool Victoria.  Secondly any advice on improvements i should possibly make prior to entering it.

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Re: Help - Advice required
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2017, 12:02:07 AM »
The markings certainly look like a Welcome Swallow Brian and I presume the characteristically long tail feathers are partly obscured by the leaf.  Are you confident of your colour temperature as it looks very blue.
Google up Welcome Swallow and look at the colouration.  I put a camera raw eye dropper on the chest feathers and it improved it to my eye but the back of the neck still looks blue.
The crop is a matter of taste but there is a lot of space behind the bird.  Are you allowed to work on the eye a little?
Is it a "nature"with specific rules?  This will determine how much work you are allowed to do.
The only other comment from me is "where does your eye go?"  Mine goes to the bright red leaves.  Again a matter of taste and the judge, I would desaturate the leaves a little to focus the eye.  Again a matter of opinion- you could argue that the agles bring you to the bird.
Nice head angle mirroring the leaf angle and the wing feathers mirror the leaf angle on the other side.
Just ideas- I am used to judges not liking my efforts :cry: "sniffle :cry:  ....john
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Re: Help - Advice required
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2017, 09:16:34 PM »
hey thanks John, will have a bit of a play with it.  Not sure about the colour balance,  it is pretty much as i remember seeing it when i took it, and other photos i took around the same time are all ok, however i agree, when looking at photos of welcome swallows on the internet they do appear a lot darker in the blue area.
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Re: Help - Advice required
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2017, 12:10:29 AM »
My only comment would be if you have room in the orinal you might try cropping with the bird farther to the right with more space in front of the gaze of the bird.
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Re: Help - Advice required
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2017, 11:06:38 PM »
hey thanks John, will have a bit of a play with it.  Not sure about the colour balance,  it is pretty much as i remember seeing it when i took it, and other photos i took around the same time are all ok, however i agree, when looking at photos of welcome swallows on the internet they do appear a lot darker in the blue area.
It is not so much the blue Brian as the local ones can have a bluish tinge.  The orange looks to be on the blue side and not as vibrant as the ones I have seen.....john
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