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pictures from the air
« on: March 03, 2013, 10:24:37 AM »
some time during the summer, I hope to get a flight ina  glider at a local club, and will be taking a camera along for some pictures.

can I ask what lens you would suggest to use as I will be flying at around 1000ft?
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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2013, 05:07:58 PM »
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The cabins are tight and changing lenses might be tricky...two cameras with long and short lenses would be handy. Baring that, then one camera with a decent focal range zoom lens would be nice to cover panos and closeups. If the IQ of either of these lenses is suitable then either of these would be okay:  Sigma 28-300DG, Tamron 28-300...you'd be covered and not have to change lenses.

Speak to the glider people...will you be able to open the window? The gliders I've seen all have thick clear plastic windows and they may cause some difficulties when shooting as they might cause glare or be 'foggy.' 

Sounds like fun.

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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2013, 06:31:17 PM »
As Clive said a 28-300mm ( you already have) will be ideal
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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2013, 08:59:45 PM »
I was under the impression that modern gliders had small sliding `windows` in the canopy............
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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2013, 09:34:20 PM »
Gordon,

I do aerial work fairly regularly for main employer and the local council. I normally take with me my 28, 50 and a zoom. Generally speaking, I have never found the need to go beyond 200mm flying between 1500-5000 but have always had good communication with the pilot so that they get me where I want to be and if a specific height does not work we reposition.

Some aircraft do have sliding windows, most of the work I do now is from a Cessna 152 and we take the door off. This in itself makes the aircraft very cold. If its raining, the door stays on and I open the window, this can cause additional problems if you stick a lens outside the the aircraft just a few mm's it will cause drag and you will find it hard to keep the camera still.

Something very important to remember is safety. I have a good working relationship with the pilot I use but when I first started there were some very strick rules. If the position your seated has any foot controls, they may not allow you to take loose objects such as additional lenses in the cabin. If you drop one and it becomes lodged under the pedal, the aircrafts manoeuvrability will obviously be compromised.

If I were you, I would plan for the 28-300 as the others have advised but I would also contact the club and ask what they will and will not allow in the cabin and whether they have a sliding window. If its a bright day, I would also take and CP filter to reduce the amount of potential glare.

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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2013, 09:45:39 PM »
Thanks Dave

I shall contact them and see what they say, I shall probably just use the 28-300 on the A700 for all the shots.

This wont happen until August so there is plenty of time to get things organised
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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2013, 09:51:14 PM »
Hi Gordon

I don't have any experience of flying in a sail plane but I do often take pictures from a paraglider, I fly as a passenger with my husband.  We can be sometimes 3,000ft above the ground where the air is smooth, but there is less detail to take pictures of.  I usually find I spot the best shots when coming into land when the camera is tucked safely in its bag! Always the way!

I used to use my 28-300 but it's one of the older ones and the IQ wasn't brilliant.  They are great from a 'not having to change lens' point, but in reality I found that I rarely used and got good results from the long end.  Unless the air is really clear the haze usually gets in the way, plus it's more cumbersome.  I now tend to use my 18-125.  I sometimes take my 10-24 as I feel it really conveys the wide open space up there.

A polarizing filter has mixed blessings. If the weather is dull and overcast then it can reduce the light levels too much to get fast shutter speeds, but it helps cuts through the haze sometimes and, as I'm sure you know, it makes the best of a blue sky/big cloud day.  I guess it might help with reflections from the glass canopy.  That all said, I struggle to turn a polarizing filter and trying to line up a shot whilst when moving about.  Changing a lens could certainly be tricky.

Use a big card - you won't want to change card, far too fiddly and time consuming, the trip will go so fast - and put the camera on continuous shooting.  I've not yet had much chance to fly with A77 but when I have I find it will hunt when trying to photograph other flying things against the sky, so I often have it on manual focus.

If you want to see some airborne images, I have a couple of 'flying' sets on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/16629154@N03/collections/72157626270626568/) in which there are a few images.  There's many more from abroad because I enjoy that more photographically and flying wise.  A friend of mine had a flight (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spwalker/sets/72157631602437999/)  over London last September in a plane.  The exif data might give you some ideas for lens length, although I don't know what height he was at.

If possible I would speak with the flying club and find out where you might be flying over, and again if possible to see photos others have taken on similar trips.  My husband had a flight in a glider once and the club walls were covered in pictures – great for inspiration.

I hope this helps

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Re: pictures from the air
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2013, 07:09:12 AM »
thanks for that Rebecca................

will have a look at those links when I get back from work tonight..........
A700, VG-C70AM, Sony 50mm f1.4,SAL1870, Sony 70-300mm f4.5-5.6 G SSM, A350,A550,3600HSD, Minolta 135, 500 Reflex, Sigma 10-20,  Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 XR Di-II LD ASP IF, Sigma 400, Tamron 90, ,Nissin Di866 MKII,Interfit 150w 2 head kit, Giottos MTL9351B/MH5011
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