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Offline PhilBee

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'Photoshopped' images item.
« on: August 02, 2010, 01:15:10 PM »
An article about manipulated images I thought may be of interest.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-10558258

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Re: 'Photoshopped' images item.
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 11:55:39 PM »
Must be a slow news day. I've seen people on the internet get all worked up over "photoshopping" images, and not being able to tell real from fake. I'm glad that article points out that photo-manipulation goes way back, but still uses stinging words like "fake", and "malicious" near the start of the article (I only bothered to read the first few paragraphs then skimmed over the rest, I wonder how many others will do the same). The final image doesn't need 'photoshop' or any dark-rooming image, just use the wrong colour temperature, and to avoid facial lines, use a Minolta 100mm soft, or an older lens. If there's a distracting object behind that picture of Catherine Zeta-Jones your trying to take, take a step to the side. We will always choose how the final image will look at every step of the process. My concern is the lack of education that regular people have. Most often, they don't seem to be aware that 'photo-shopping' is not new. They also seem to have an almost unrealistic expectation that photos should never be manipulated... they'll tell you before they turn to their fashion magazines and are dazzled by the images they see there. In anycase, how many people see examples of the manipulated images where facial lines have been reduced or eliminated, and wish they could have their portraits done nicely like that?
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Re: 'Photoshopped' images item.
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2010, 10:58:51 PM »
What annoys me is the way almost all competitions (and camera clubs) demand that there is almost no manipulation.
 You'd think that in this day and age that there would be a category that included digital manipulation and recognised it as being as much a part of photographic art and skills as it has always been!  One helluva lot of the old masters of photography would be banned under these strict rules!

An excellent article - I've sent the link re all the oldies being faked to Mr W - who, these days, is almost always banned from comps!

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Re: 'Photoshopped' images item.
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2010, 02:05:31 PM »
Good subject. Thanks.

With photos, articles, political statements, radical eco/enviro propaganda etc etc it is buyer/reader beware. That's all. Almost everything is manipulated to "prove" a point. Science and facts no longer matter.

Read any newspaper artilce and the wording is often trickery. When anslysed many (many) advertisements and political statements are taken out of context or written to be misleading. 

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Re: 'Photoshopped' images item.
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2010, 02:56:39 PM »
Certainly "information literacy" is a skill needed for the future. I don't remember where, but some education system somewhere is looking at how to teach 'information literacy'.
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Re: 'Photoshopped' images item.
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 08:15:35 AM »
What annoys me is the way almost all competitions (and camera clubs) demand that there is almost no manipulation.
 You'd think that in this day and age that there would be a category that included digital manipulation and recognised it as being as much a part of photographic art and skills as it has always been!  One helluva lot of the old masters of photography would be banned under these strict rules!

An excellent article - I've sent the link re all the oldies being faked to Mr W - who, these days, is almost always banned from comps!

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ahh, that's where your comment on my hand coloured pics came from! (http://www.dynaxdigital.com/images-to-share/around-new-zealand/)

I agree, we have always manipulated images whether that is by adding light, using distorting wide angles, haND COLOURING, SEPIA TONING, CROPPING, ETC ETC THE LIST IS ENDLESS.

In the end, does the image stir emotions in the viewer? If it does; that's the result I'm after.

I used to spend hours retouching prints for artists and eliminating blemishes on portraits. I've added people in images before digital existed and before photoshop; it's all good and selective use of, and in depth knowledge of the CRAFT of photography can greatly add to the ART of photography by creating the emotion you imagined before or after you took the picture.