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General Chat - not just photography => Dynax Digital Forum Site Comments => Topic started by: fother on October 05, 2011, 01:39:55 AM

Title: Site structure update
Post by: fother on October 05, 2011, 01:39:55 AM

Hi all,

with the ongoing release of new camera bodies, it's getting harder and harder to maintain meaningful board distinctions... and as features and issues tend to be spread across similar models, we've decided to update our board structure.

You'll now see that the Digital SLR & SLT Discussion area has been simplified to three boards, representing the major camera body types: SLT, full frame SLR, and crop sensor SLR.

We hope this makes it easier to participate on the forum - a simpler structure means less division of discussions :)

thanks

fother
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: dynax dingbat on October 05, 2011, 03:37:52 PM
I must be getting old but I just don't get it - sorry.
With the old system I could just see instantly which categories had a changed entry, no need to wade through all the posts!
Graham
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: sonyboy on October 05, 2011, 04:35:31 PM
I am old but seems fine to me as long as members add the camera model to the title ie A700 problems etc then members can look for the latest comments relating to their interests.
Rick
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: REX (aka TG) on October 05, 2011, 04:41:59 PM
I find it OK either way and i understand that year by year we will have problem with the model numbers. So is better to clear it now and get a sort for the future models
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: Faldrax on October 05, 2011, 04:56:15 PM
I am afraid I find the new structure is less convenient as well.
I an interested in the A77 (no change), A900 (no change), A700 & A200 (now have to find relevant posts in single forum, rather than dedicated forums).
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: rogprov on October 05, 2011, 05:29:08 PM
I must be getting old but I just don't get it - sorry.
With the old system I could just see instantly which categories had a changed entry, no need to wade through all the posts!
Graham

I always enter the forum via "Recent Unread Topics" I never wade through individual areas (life's too short) am I missing anything with these recent changes?
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: DaveH on October 05, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
Find it very confusing and really don't like the new layout, there is now just too much of a mix of too many camera bodies in one area. For me it was much better (as an A700 user) going through one area rather than wade through other bodies info as well in the same area. Many of the older bodies are still very popular and (in my opinion) warrant their own 'section' still.

Big thumbs down from me, sorry, in fact the new layout is very off-putting for thos eof us new to the site. It may be ok for those who can afford the latest or more expensive camera's, but for those of us on a budget cramming all those 'bodies' together into Crop sensor (over 12,700 posts!!!!!) is just one step too far in my opinion and spoils the experience of this excellent forum.




Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: fother on October 05, 2011, 10:10:18 PM
Just goes to show you can't please everyone! :)

In making this change we took into account the way most members use the site, and it's been something we've watched for months (though the use patterns have been something we watch much longer)

Any time a site does some updates, some users will like it better the old way, or a different way. But give it some time - it's been less than a day - it's actually a pretty minor adjustment, and might mean more responses to some of the questions...

And yes Dave, over 12000 posts spanning more than 7 years. None were removed :)
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: philjo on October 06, 2011, 01:27:28 PM
It took me a while to twig what had changed - it just looked different!
I think it could work provided everyone puts their SLR model number (e.g. A700) in the thread subject line.
It would be useful to have a separate section dedicated to discussion of the various Sony NEX cameras. I know they are not A-mount but with the lens adaptor I am using alpha lenses on mine.
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: fother on October 06, 2011, 09:59:39 PM

It would be useful to have a separate section dedicated to discussion of the various Sony NEX cameras. I know they are not A-mount but with the lens adaptor I am using alpha lenses on mine.

I was wondering how long before that would be suggested :D
Watch this space ... ;)
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: Lez60 on October 07, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
'fraid I'm not too keen on the new format either, but I think Rogprov has the ideal answer in just looking at unread posts since your last visit. Of course you'll have to log on to do it, so no more lurking :)

Just as a last comment; thanks to the moderators for your efforts and time spent overseeing things.

Les.
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: subbu68 on October 08, 2011, 03:22:03 AM
Happy to see a section for NEX.

Other than that I found it not convenient with the new structure. Now have to do a word search if I needed to look up on A200 that I own. "Old" (structure) was Gold.
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: DaveH on October 08, 2011, 05:19:11 AM
OK, I've tried for a couple of days, and have to say the Crop Sensor section is not good to use, in fact it's downright awkward to find things. Whilst I accept you've been monitoring statistics and all the other good stuff, I personally think you've crammed too much into one section - stats are not the be all and end all, there are the way that people use the site to consider and offset, and I think you've under-estimated that big-time. As a new user struggling to come to terms with my new Sony A700, in my opinion you have 'destroyed' what was an excellent reference section for new users. Whilst it's all well and good saying about put your camera body in the heading, that doesn't really help looking backwards. It's almost as though someone has walked into a room taken a few dozen packs of different cards, thrown them up into the air and then said find the card you want from a particular pack. To my way of thinking the site now is much more focused and formatted around the experienced user with the latest bodies, who understand therange of bewildering terms -  those with old bodies, well, unlucky, just sort through the jumble of mails in Crop Sensor section.

I am though rather bemused as to why the format 'had' to change. Really what was wrong with the old format? So you had a couple of extra main headings? Was that really an issue?
 
As a new user, I'm now struggling with this site, at least in the camera body section. Working my way down the list of A700 entries to me in the old section was helping me come to terms and learn to use my A700. Now it's just plain hard work. Sorry.
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: Andrewbarrettuk on October 08, 2011, 07:22:06 AM
I must be honest I hadn't noticed the difference until I read this thread, but I always click on the latest posts to see what's been happening, having been involved in forums as a moderator it can be a thankless but enjoyable task and whatever you do you'll never please everyone.
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: chappo1 on October 09, 2011, 07:38:31 AM
Sorry Michael.  You can add me to the old codgers resisting the advance of new things.  I prefer the original structure where you could easily fond comments on each model...john
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: Bigbreakfast on October 09, 2011, 08:07:26 AM
Like Roger, Andrew and i navigate in the same way - by looking at new replies, new unread posts etc.. so I didn't notice the change. I can see the logic for doing it but it seems others don't like it. Can you have a subforum for each cmera within the main sections?
Title: Re: Site structure update
Post by: Frank [aka Wires] on October 24, 2011, 05:30:50 PM
Like Roger, Andrew and i navigate in the same way - by looking at new replies, new unread posts etc.. so I didn't notice the change. I can see the logic for doing it but it seems others don't like it. Can you have a subforum for each cmera within the main sections?

Just what I was going to suggest about having subforums for the 'old' list like the a700 etc., cameras. Couldn't they be listed as they were before - don't see why [at this moment] - as specified sub forums in the 'New' Crop Sensor section? More work for the admin guys... but a much happier group of members.

It's been a while since I popped in to see what's happening so was sort of taken unawares by the new changes. Haven't yet - and don't know when - I'll upgrade to the A77 etc branch of the SONY brood but would still like to be able to find Qs & As on the a700 without possible long and misleading searches for posts... as I'm sure users of the now, seemingly dismissed, 'older' Alpha models like a100 & a200 etc., would like to not feel 'left out'.

Ok... could follow BB & Rod etc., to follow via unread posts but do admit to liking to go to the 'areas' I'm interested in rather than go through 'all' unread since last visit. Nothing personal Admin :)