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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #15 on: September 19, 2008, 08:17:57 AM »
one for Stef can you recommend a few titles the type of book I can work easiest with is set out as lessons if you know what I mean. Sort of this is a result that might be useful now step by step here is how you do it. I have How To Cheat In Photoshop but that is more for playing tricks and creating effects
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #16 on: September 19, 2008, 12:57:38 PM »
i am trying to order the big photoshop cs3 book from kelby along with his down and dirty tricks book. then i am also trying to order the martin evening cs3 book. i should know by monday if i can get them here
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2008, 05:38:25 PM »
Doctore- CS4 is coming out in about two weeks. You might want to hold back should you consider upgrading.
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2008, 06:01:17 PM »
stef i just got cs3 4 months ago i think it will keep me going for a while, i need to learn something before i upgrade lol
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2008, 06:04:27 PM »
You should be able to get the books quite cheap than as they will be soon outdated!
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2008, 10:40:18 PM »
are any of the photoshop dedicated magazines worth buying they seem expensive probably buy a book cheaper than half a dozen of the mags
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2008, 05:51:47 AM »
There is one out there in the UK that I can whole heartedly recommend and it is even worth getting it sent to you all over the world: "Digital Photo" http://www.photoanswers.co.uk/GLOBAL/About-Us/Digital-Photo/ and careful it is not Digital Photo Pro !!! and also on second place: "Digital Camera Magazine" http://www.dcmag.co.uk/ Both are worth every single penny in my opinion and to be very brutal the rest are pretty ... well whatever...
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #22 on: September 20, 2008, 02:46:04 PM »
I must admit that if i do buy any mags, its usually ione of the two that Stef has mentioned, also digital photo quite often includes CD's with it covering many aspects of editing, including RAW and a very easily followed and very informative.



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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2008, 11:43:53 PM »
Rob- they are both goldmines of information and they come out only once a month. I think I have studied every Photoshop book on the planet in all languages that I speak but those two mags still come up occassionally with stuff that's new to me. Anyhow I DO NOT receive anything from them for telling you that ;)
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2008, 08:26:34 AM »
Hi all went to the site Stef recommended for digital photo and they are doing 3 issues for a GB pound each if you take a years subscription the rest are just under a fiver each so looks like I am going to have to learn to read and more important at my age remember what I have read think I have just found my next challenge ta again Stef
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2008, 11:31:43 PM »
Glad you are doing it- promise you will not regret it!
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Re: White balance tool.
« Reply #26 on: February 26, 2010, 07:10:17 PM »

When using the White Balance Tool (eyedropper) in Camera Raw, do you think it is better to pick on WHITE or on GREY? (I am using PSE 8)
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #27 on: February 26, 2010, 07:26:31 PM »
Peter- the white balance tool is for either white/black or grey. If you have something in your picture that you know is either of the three colours than click on this one. Now there is a slight problem with this:let's assume you white point is all the way to the right of your image and you click on it than the wb for your centre part might be slightly off as the light intensity and temperature varies over your image. In other words: if you include a grey card in your first shot than this grey cards needs to be placed let's say in front of your subject's face as later on you want the right wb patricularly for that part of the image. If you'd come from the olden days where we used lightmeters than you might remember that you always hold your lightmeter facing the camera from i.e. the face of you subject. Once you move this lightmeter slightly to the side of your subject you will get a different reading (usually). The same principle is with grey cards: they need to be place exactly where you want your wb to be corrected.

Now coming back to your question: if you can find a white spot/ black one or grey one in the middle of your image- than this would be better. Alternatively...if you have neither of the three colours in your image than the wb toll can be used on something that you would consider the nearest to a grey point. I.e. a stump of a tree...

Finally it has to be said: a custom wb is the best you can do- followed by: including a grey card in your first image that you then use for setting your wb in your raw converter. Here again: you have to repeat doing your custom wb or include a grey card EACH time the light changes...

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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2010, 01:43:51 PM »
Peter- the white balance tool is for either white/black or grey. If you have something in your picture that you know is either of the three colours than click on this one. Now there is a slight problem with this:let's assume you white point is all the way to the right of your image and you click on it than the wb for your centre part might be slightly off as the light intensity and temperature varies over your image. In other words: if you include a grey card in your first shot than this grey cards needs to be placed let's say in front of your subject's face as later on you want the right wb patricularly for that part of the image. If you'd come from the olden days where we used lightmeters than you might remember that you always hold your lightmeter facing the camera from i.e. the face of you subject. Once you move this lightmeter slightly to the side of your subject you will get a different reading (usually). The same principle is with grey cards: they need to be place exactly where you want your wb to be corrected.

Now coming back to your question: if you can find a white spot/ black one or grey one in the middle of your image- than this would be better. Alternatively...if you have neither of the three colours in your image than the wb toll can be used on something that you would consider the nearest to a grey point. I.e. a stump of a tree...

Finally it has to be said: a custom wb is the best you can do- followed by: including a grey card in your first image that you then use for setting your wb in your raw converter. Here again: you have to repeat doing your custom wb or include a grey card EACH time the light changes...

Hope this helps? More questions? Just shoot...

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Thanks, Stef. That is very helpful. Especially the part about light differences from center to edge; I really wasn't considering that point. Now if i can get the birds to hold a grey card...
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Re: Requests or suggestions for new Darkroom Tips.
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2010, 06:50:27 PM »
Peter- LOL! You can always put your camera onto the tripod- walk somewhere into your picture wheere the birds are- hold up a grey card and shoot a self-portrait that you can then use for wb. Alternatively- and this is the more serious suggestion: just hold up a piece of white paper roughly in the right direction and take a custom wb reading from that. All of this is better than just shooting AWB.
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